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I'm in the UK, I suspect my first electric car (in a couple of years) will be the new Škoda based on the same platform as the ID.3: https://www.skoda.co.uk/electric-hybrid-cars/enyaq-iv
Still a huge markup on their petrol equivalents, roughly £14k more expensive. Yes you get a few extra bells and whistles and a small grant to help but that difference still has a ways to go
This includes hybrids. It's really questionable to incentivize hybrid vehicles and selling it as a electrified success. Discussions about the efficiency/environmental impact/... of combustion v.s. electric aside, it's obvious that driving a huge battery around will burn more fuel. I think this can only be seen as a success for electrified motors if it's proven that they're actually being used.
Almost everyone celebrating "electric cars" in that headline is really cheering for carbon reduction, and this for sure qualifies.
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It seems like Volkswagen is making some real inroads in the EV market based on that data. Is this correct? What has fueled it—is there a particular model?
The first two models are the ID.3 hatchback (which has launched in Europe) and the ID.4 SUV (which has been advertised and is available for pre-orders in the US). Volkswagen has made massive investments in EVs after their diesel emissions cheating scandal. Part of their settlement with the US was that they would spend $2 billion on emissions-free auto infrastructure to offset their diesel emissions. That's where Elec…
Regulation 2019/631 sets new EU fleet-wide CO2 emission targets are set for the years 2025 and 2030, both for newly registered passenger cars and for newly registered vans.
But: The specific CO2 emission target of a manufacturer will be relaxed if its share of low-emission vehicles registered in a given year exceeds 15% in 2025 and 30-35% in 2030.
More here: https://ec.europa.eu/clima/policies/transport/vehicles/regul...
Norway has been leading the pack in this regard for quite some time. A few Government incentives, both financial and for instance the ability to use dedicated bus lanes (now discontinued in Oslo I think?) majorly helped. One of the large issues around uptake is simply infrastructure. Here in Ireland, it is still patchy at best. We had an EV (Nissan) from around 2016 but gave it up in 2020 as there was simply too much…
This is mostly because aerodynamics become very important in an EV, and weight becomes (relatively) less important.
That changes substantially many design decisions, affecting a lot of things you might not expect - dramatic changes to the visual appearance, focus on AC rather than a sunroof, internal airflow changes to prevent fogging, etc.
54% of the sales of NEW cars. Not all cars in Norway.
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Volkswagen has majorly invested in EVs. One important model Volkswagen has made is the ID.3 . Similar in size to the golf / rabbit. This is an attainable car I'm interested in buying.
I'm in the UK, I suspect my first electric car (in a couple of years) will be the new Škoda based on the same platform as the ID.3: https://www.skoda.co.uk/electric-hybrid-cars/enyaq-iv
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As far as I know there's not much incentive to buy electric in Sweden, where in Norway they're heavily subsidised. Also, small internet, Hello from Caroli, Malmo! [EDIT: Cars otherwise being heavily taxed and EV's being Tax free, both at purchase time and with annual car taxes (with additional perks such as no parking tolls and driving in bus lanes) is the definition of subsidised]
They are not subsidized in Norway, just exempt from taxes.
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Still a huge markup on their petrol equivalents, roughly £14k more expensive. Yes you get a few extra bells and whistles and a small grant to help but that difference still has a ways to go
Surely the fuel cost savings would wipe out the price difference within a couple of years? Not sure what the average price of petrol is where you are though. [Edit[ https://myelectriccar.com.au/calculator/ confirms this at least for a Nissan Leaf running in Australia.
https://www.goultralow.com/journey-cost-savings-calculator/
I reckon we'd save less than £1000 a year changing my wifes Karoq for an electric Enyaq. Possibly more as I suspect she could charge at work.
So not really worth it purely financially.
This includes hybrids. It's really questionable to incentivize hybrid vehicles and selling it as a electrified success. Discussions about the efficiency/environmental impact/... of combustion v.s. electric aside, it's obvious that driving a huge battery around will burn more fuel. I think this can only be seen as a success for electrified motors if it's proven that they're actually being used.
Plug-in hybrids used for routine urban driving (commutes, errands, etc...) are effectively EVs. I don't have usage data for Norway specifically, but the numbers that have been thrown around elsewhere are something like 20-30% of the driving is done using the gasoline engine. Almost everyone celebrating "electric cars" in that headline is really cheering for carbon reduction, and this for sure qualifies.
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Still a huge markup on their petrol equivalents, roughly £14k more expensive. Yes you get a few extra bells and whistles and a small grant to help but that difference still has a ways to go
Surely the fuel cost savings would wipe out the price difference within a couple of years? Not sure what the average price of petrol is where you are though. [Edit[ https://myelectriccar.com.au/calculator/ confirms this at least for a Nissan Leaf running in Australia.
Only if you drive a lot. Based on my driving patterns I calculated it would take me a good 10-12 years to make up the difference. Which is a shame because in every other way an electric car would fit my usage pattern perfectly.