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Re: Termux no longer updated on Google Play

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Post by perryizgr8 »

higerordermap wrote: post #57
perryizgr8 wrote: post #13

I wish Google took the high road when it comes to Android and let users create legit root accounts on their phones. Instead they seem to be emulating the worst parts of Iphone OS. And no, root account does not violate any security principles. If your app is leaking secrets due to root accounts, your app is broken.

HN has this fetish for root access. But it's more important to protect dumb users, and script kiddos watching youtube videos for everything, than letting someone do some text operation his smug greybeard (tm) 1970s way. And Google technically allows it, buy a phone with unlockable bootloader.

Why would "dumb" users create a root account on their phone?

Re: Termux no longer updated on Google Play

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Post by [deleted] »

pantalaimon wrote: post #94
hyperpallium2 wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What about development on-the-device? - It seems C compiled with clang on the device wouldn't be executable? (If it was, that would be a way around the restriction: distribute packages as source, like the good old days) > offer users the option of generating an apk wrapping their native code in a usable way. https://github.com/termux/termux-app/issues/1072#issuecommen... This seems a promising solution: compile from…

How would binaries compiled on the device differ from those downloaded from the internet?

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Re: Termux no longer updated on Google Play

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Post by folkrav »

fsflover wrote: post #106
folkrav wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Again, those "selling points" are extremely fringe. Let's not pretend like grandma (and the average phone user) cares about hardware killswitches, DP over USB-C, etc... Like they say themselves in that very article you posted : > For people who want these specialized features that no other phone offers, the Librem 5's price is not unreasonable. Also, specs are obviously not the only thing that matters, but having see…

That is why I asked why grandma would need a performance of iPhone 12. Native apps work quite smoothly on Librem 5 (and many of them even on Pinephone). Choppiness of the UI is not caused by the hardware specs, but by not yet fully optimized software. See here: https://social.librem.one/@dos/104984930233748319

I mean, just take a look at their own damn videos. [1] The thing runs choppy and had horrible input lag just typing the lockscreen passcode or opening the dialer.

I don't expect my mom to need iPhone 12 performance, but even my mom told me her older LG G-something was slow getting slow, and having played with it before her switching phones, it wasn't nearly as choppy looking as this video.

You and I obviously have very different definitions of "quite smoothly". And specs related or not, UI is a major part of the experience. The initial point still stands: Linux phones are pretty damn far from being anywhere viable for anyone but the most hardcore enthusiasts.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qimtzxMyfq0

Re: Termux no longer updated on Google Play

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Post by fsflover »

pantalaimon wrote: post #91
fsflover wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How does LineageOS compare to /e/OS?

I never heard of /e/OS what does it do?

https://e.foundation/

You can even buy it preinstalled on Fairphone: https://esolutions.shop/shop/e-os-fairphone-3/.

Re: Termux no longer updated on Google Play

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Post by fsflover »

Mediterraneo10 wrote: post #110
fsflover wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you need more power, why not choose Librem 5?

Price, for one. And also the company's reputation for transparency.

So you expect a performant niche phone for a low price?

Concerning the transparency, I agree, they have some issues. But it does not concern me as long as they actually deliver (and they do).

Re: Termux no longer updated on Google Play

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Post by bill_mon »

driverdan wrote: post #95
app4soft wrote: post #88

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Sadly, since January 1st, 2020 Termux team dropped[0] support for Android 5.x/6.x , so actually in F-Droid repo it now requires minimum Android 7.x : > Support for Android 5.x.x - 6.x.x is dropped forever. Time to upgrade your devices or learn how to backport git changes. [1] And this part from Termux devs reply is especially cynical: > ... Time to upgrade your devices... [1] It looks like they has a contract with de…

Why would you expect them to continue supporting a 5 year old OS version?

Because most devices can't be updated? Supporting version 4+ gives you a much larger audience than limiting to version 7+.

Re: Termux no longer updated on Google Play

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Post by [deleted] »

gst wrote: post #77
amingilani wrote: post #9

Quick note: Google's Advanced Protection program disallows sideloading apps, so you can't install F-droid. Edit: Note that the Advanced Protection program is opt-in for users that require the highest degree of security Google can offer. Regular users won't be impacted by this. Edit: proof https://imgur.com/a/yktPNIc Edit 2: see @haunter's comment for a link to the change announcement

> Quick note: Google's Advanced Protection program disallows sideloading apps, so you can't install F-droid. It's still possible to sideload apps if they are installed with ADB.

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Re: Termux no longer updated on Google Play

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Post by hyperpallium2 »

pantalaimon wrote: post #94
hyperpallium2 wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What about development on-the-device? - It seems C compiled with clang on the device wouldn't be executable? (If it was, that would be a way around the restriction: distribute packages as source, like the good old days) > offer users the option of generating an apk wrapping their native code in a usable way. https://github.com/termux/termux-app/issues/1072#issuecommen... This seems a promising solution: compile from…

How would binaries compiled on the device differ from those downloaded from the internet?

Yeah, I think you're right: you could download instead of compile, it's just the assembling into an apk on the device that has the advantage of customizing exactly what you want.

Re: Termux no longer updated on Google Play

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Post by suprfsat »

johnsoft wrote: post #73
amingilani wrote: post #9

Quick note: Google's Advanced Protection program disallows sideloading apps, so you can't install F-droid. Edit: Note that the Advanced Protection program is opt-in for users that require the highest degree of security Google can offer. Regular users won't be impacted by this. Edit: proof https://imgur.com/a/yktPNIc Edit 2: see @haunter's comment for a link to the change announcement

Yikes. I use f-droid, and I'm lucky enough to be one Android version behind. Can someone who's upgraded let me know what to expect when I upgrade? The blog post mentions that adb still works. Does this mean I'll have to use adb once to install f-droid and have it work normally after that, or will _every_ app need to be installed using adb?

You'll have to use ADB once to install F-droid and each new app not from the Play Store, but F-droid will be allowed to install updates.

Re: Termux no longer updated on Google Play

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Post by xorcist »

unixhero wrote: post #10
fsflover wrote: post #8

Time to switch to GNU/Linux phones if you want to own your device.

Okay? How!?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_open-source_mobile_pho...

Also worth to take a look at is Fairphone, which is a little more finished product than most. It has an active community around it with many ports ongoing.

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