slightly offtopic: I am surprised by how much patience thestinger has on the thread replying to people who clearly have no context about the issue - enough to repeatedly explain the tradeoffs and reasons behind the decisions taken.
Termux no longer updated on Google Play
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Re: Termux no longer updated on Google Play
#102Earlier quoted context omitted.
The majority of people don't see any value in it, sadly. At least we can hope terminal + tools as separate app bundles approach takes off.
The majority doesn't decide what is done by the minority.
It is increasingly impossible to live in my country without a number of apps that require an iOS device or an Android device with all the Google services enabled. There's one de facto monopoly payment app[0], a lot of places where you can't park without an app etc., but the big thing is we have a government mandated single sign-on solution. You can still get one-time-pads in the mail, but there's also an app, and some features of the service are now app only.
The web allowed us to avoid a world where everyone had to own a Windows machine, but mobile phones are now making that a reality.
[0] A privately owned replacement for cash, doesn't that just sound great...
Re: Termux no longer updated on Google Play
#103Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sadly, since January 1st, 2020 Termux team dropped[0] support for Android 5.x/6.x , so actually in F-Droid repo it now requires minimum Android 7.x : > Support for Android 5.x.x - 6.x.x is dropped forever. Time to upgrade your devices or learn how to backport git changes. [1] And this part from Termux devs reply is especially cynical: > ... Time to upgrade your devices... [1] It looks like they has a contract with de…
Why would you expect them to continue supporting a 5 year old OS version?
Because its community driven FLOSS project.
And it would "OK" if there would no releases with new features... but bug fix releases which is worse.
Instead, team (owner & core members) just dropped & disabled everything, leaving Android 5.x/6.x device owners in frozen state.
Even more, team not proposed itself & ignored any proposition from others to at least support Termux for Android 5.x/6.x in LTS-way.
Re: Termux no longer updated on Google Play
#104Quick note: Google's Advanced Protection program disallows sideloading apps, so you can't install F-droid. Edit: Note that the Advanced Protection program is opt-in for users that require the highest degree of security Google can offer. Regular users won't be impacted by this. Edit: proof https://imgur.com/a/yktPNIc Edit 2: see @haunter's comment for a link to the change announcement
I learned recently that having Advanced Protection enabled also rewrites all URLs in your email messages to use the Google URL redirector, even when accessed via IMAP.
It breaks PGP signatures, among other things.
No way to turn it off without disabling all of Advanced Protection. Sweet, huh?
Re: Termux no longer updated on Google Play
#105Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't think the hardware will change much in the future anymore.
What about the backlight bug? https://wiki.pine64.org/wiki/PinePhone_v1.2#Backlight
Why downvotes? I genuenly would like to know about it. The bug is present in all Pinephone versions, including the one on sale now.
Re: Termux no longer updated on Google Play
#106Earlier quoted context omitted.
Librem 5 provides features which no other phone provides. Simple specs comparison does not show the whole picture. See FAQ: https://source.puri.sm/Librem5/community-wiki/-/wikis/Freque... . Edit: Also, why do you need a better performance? Browsing and 3D games work fine.
Again, those "selling points" are extremely fringe. Let's not pretend like grandma (and the average phone user) cares about hardware killswitches, DP over USB-C, etc... Like they say themselves in that very article you posted : > For people who want these specialized features that no other phone offers, the Librem 5's price is not unreasonable. Also, specs are obviously not the only thing that matters, but having see…
That is why I asked why grandma would need a performance of iPhone 12. Native apps work quite smoothly on Librem 5 (and many of them even on Pinephone).
Choppiness of the UI is not caused by the hardware specs, but by not yet fully optimized software. See here: https://social.librem.one/@dos/104984930233748319
Re: Termux no longer updated on Google Play
#107Check out Termius. I've never used Termux so I'm not sure if Termius has the same feature set but it was enough to occasionally ssh in to my machine to attach/detach a gnu screen session to do what i needed. Also see Admin Hands.
From Termius description, it's a completely different app than Termux. Termius is a ssh client, it's purpose is to allow you to connect to a remote computer, whereas Termux is the computer. You can program, compile, run programs, etc... from Termux.
Re: Termux no longer updated on Google Play
#108Earlier quoted context omitted.
> But those are by far the minority of apps, and it seems crazy to make a pretty massive security tradeoff for something that 99% of apps don't need to do. Yet oddly, I as the user who paid $550 for my device would like to do that. I understand wanting to put a warning on it, but otherwise my device can kindly screw off and do what I've told it to do, or it will be taking a one way ride out the nearest window. The de…
To play devil's advocate only: If Bob paid $COST for a phone and it got exploited because of this, Bob may throw his phone out of the nearest window. Do you think there are more Bobs than you in the world? Personally, I find this reliance on the GOOG OS awful, but most of it was overcome with Xposed last time I ran LineageOS. I tried Cydia last time I ran IOS and that was worse. I've thrown several phones out of the…
> If Bob paid $COST for a phone and it got exploited because of this, Bob may throw his phone out of the nearest window.
You and I both know, despite many attempts, there is no hardware or software out there that is unexploitable. From the most locked down chromebook to Apple's walled garden, these devices can and are exploited.
The idea that if somehow we take away enough of your freedom we'll make the device safe is basically a bald faced lie. Not once in the history of computing has it worked out. Even my internet connected lightbulbs which literally have only an on and an off exposed are exploitable.
No amount of removing user freedom will make users safer. This isn't a rocket surgery level conclusion, which means companies that continue pressing down this road probably have some other reason for doing so.
Re: Termux no longer updated on Google Play
#109Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sadly, since January 1st, 2020 Termux team dropped[0] support for Android 5.x/6.x , so actually in F-Droid repo it now requires minimum Android 7.x : > Support for Android 5.x.x - 6.x.x is dropped forever. Time to upgrade your devices or learn how to backport git changes. [1] And this part from Termux devs reply is especially cynical: > ... Time to upgrade your devices... [1] It looks like they has a contract with de…
I think 5 years of support is reasonable.
No.
Beside Android 5.x/6.x devices, I has Symbian 9.x (Nokia N82) smartphone which works perfectly. And there are a lot of new apps for it:
- https://old.reddit.com/r/symbian/new
P.S. My 10+ year-old laptop perfectly works with latest MX Linux distribution (based on Debian 10 buster) and all modern FLOSS desktop apps (GIMP, FreeCAD, Inkscape, etc.) works like a charm on it.
So, software devs should NOT declare users to buy/upgrade hardware.
Re: Termux no longer updated on Google Play
#110Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not for this first Pinephone. But there is now a more advanced chip available that Pine64 may start offering within a couple of years.
If you need more power, why not choose Librem 5?
Price, for one. And also the company's reputation for transparency.