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Re: Termux no longer updated on Google Play

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badRNG wrote: post #44
fsflover wrote: post #8

Time to switch to GNU/Linux phones if you want to own your device.

Are there actually any phones for "normal" Linux users? I've used GNU/Linux as my desktop OS for nearly a decade: Fedora for years, then openSUSE, then Pop!_OS for the past couple of years. These distros seem to have provided a good, current, stable out-of-the box experience (Out-of-the-Box + RPM Fusion and Packman for the former two.) I just don't enjoy constantly fixing issues on my personal systems, in fact, after…

If you prefer stability over feature set on desktop, choose Debian stable. It's rock-solid.

> I remember reading an article full of workarounds to get a dialer app to work on some project phone.

Currently, phone calls and sms work fine on both Librem 5 and Pinephone. The development rate is amazing. Only the good battery life is lacking yet, but it's improving every month.

Re: Termux no longer updated on Google Play

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Post by kelchqvjpnfasjl »

fsflover wrote: post #40
Mediterraneo10 wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not for this first Pinephone. But there is now a more advanced chip available that Pine64 may start offering within a couple of years.

If you need more power, why not choose Librem 5?

Because you could buy 4 PinePhones for the cost of a Librem 5?

Re: Termux no longer updated on Google Play

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Post by higerordermap »

pjmlp wrote: post #32

For those not following. the TL;DR; is basically termux doesn't want to accept that Linux on Android is only an implementation detail and re-implement the necessary shell like functionality using the Java Frameworks.

Not exactly, it doesn't use "java frameworks". I don't exactly remember Implementation details (has been few years since I fiddled with it). It executes binaries same way as any app can do, there may be some JNI involved in the way you get to shell, but that's it.

And what's wrong with it? It may be implementation detail but termux increases utility of the phone. It seems you always have an axe against UNIX / FOSS ecosystem to grind. But every system has its strengths and weaknesses, Unix is just too ubiquitous for what it is worth. Look at fuchsia, while having laudable goals, has already become quite complicated (in typical Google project manner).

Re: Termux no longer updated on Google Play

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Post by badRNG »

While I really, really want a GNU/Linux Android-alternative to succeed, at the moment a good solution for those of us who can't go without Termux is LineageOS [1], an Android fork, comes with a terminal emulator WITH root access (of course you can install Termux if you prefer how it handles packages.) You can also install Play Store apps on it, should you feel so inclined.

[1] https://lineageos.org/

Re: Termux no longer updated on Google Play

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Post by higerordermap »

perryizgr8 wrote: post #13

I wish Google took the high road when it comes to Android and let users create legit root accounts on their phones. Instead they seem to be emulating the worst parts of Iphone OS. And no, root account does not violate any security principles. If your app is leaking secrets due to root accounts, your app is broken.

HN has this fetish for root access. But it's more important to protect dumb users, and script kiddos watching youtube videos for everything, than letting someone do some text operation his smug greybeard (tm) 1970s way.

And Google technically allows it, buy a phone with unlockable bootloader.

Re: Termux no longer updated on Google Play

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Post by fsflover »

badRNG wrote: post #55

While I really, really want a GNU/Linux Android-alternative to succeed, at the moment a good solution for those of us who can't go without Termux is LineageOS [1], an Android fork, comes with a terminal emulator WITH root access (of course you can install Termux if you prefer how it handles packages.) You can also install Play Store apps on it, should you feel so inclined. [1] https://lineageos.org/

How does LineageOS compare to /e/OS?

Re: Termux no longer updated on Google Play

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Post by badRNG »

fsflover wrote: post #51
badRNG wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are there actually any phones for "normal" Linux users? I've used GNU/Linux as my desktop OS for nearly a decade: Fedora for years, then openSUSE, then Pop!_OS for the past couple of years. These distros seem to have provided a good, current, stable out-of-the box experience (Out-of-the-Box + RPM Fusion and Packman for the former two.) I just don't enjoy constantly fixing issues on my personal systems, in fact, after…

If you prefer stability over feature set on desktop, choose Debian stable. It's rock-solid. > I remember reading an article full of workarounds to get a dialer app to work on some project phone. Currently, phone calls and sms work fine on both Librem 5 and Pinephone. The development rate is amazing. Only the good battery life is lacking yet, but it's improving every month.

I might give the GNU/Linux phone another shot.

I do prioritize currency over stability in many instances, but I do want a reasonable level of stability which is admittedly quite subjective. Pop!_OS or other Ubuntu-based distros seem to strike the right balance for me (Pop won me over with it's built in, togglable tiling manager, a feature I'd have to spend a week's worth of free time researching and trying to get working properly in, say Arch.) I just don't have much free time and motivation to spend getting some tiny quality of life improvement to work.

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