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Re: Show HN: I made an alternative platform for professional profiles

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Definitely beautiful and would love for something simple and clean to eat LinkedIn's lunch. I don't have much to add in addition to everyone else except this: I am really disturbed by the common meme of faces-inside-circles. Why do we need faces? It just distracts from the content. I love the idea of being able to link former colleagues together - that's neat - but I'm very anti-face and there are any number of ways…

Around ten direct replies to your post and I still don't feel like the reason why pictures on CVs is a bad idea has been explained explicitly. I'm in the UK, where race, age, gender, religion, disability are among protected characteristics. As such, that information, should it be included, is often either stripped from the CV automatically or the CV discarded entirely to obviate the risk of being accused of discrimin…

You realise that someones race, age, gender, disability etc are all easily inferred as soon as you meet someone in person?

It doesn't matter what you do here, if someone wants to reject someone based on gender, race, etc, they can do so easily and just say they weren't good enough. This is the ultimate elephant in room with hiring and it's always been there and always will be unless we somehow do hiring while never talking to someone or seeing them or knowing their real-name.

Even if it wasn't expressly forbidden under law, no one was ever rejecting someone from a job "because they are black/white/female/etc/etc/", that's always been obviously wrong, but it's easy enough to simply say "They're not a culture fit." or "Not experienced enough" or "Didn't answer the technical questions well enough."

I don't think banning people's faces on resumes or CVs would fix anything, the only thing that would "fix" this is changing our implicit and unconscious biases from childhood onwards, i.e. a major change to our teaching culture, and across all the media, TV, movies, books etc.

Re: Show HN: I made an alternative platform for professional profiles

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Tech recruiter here. Pros: + Very beautifully designed project + Super readability Big, easy to fix negative: Force people to add months to the years! You only asks the year when someone started in "Work Experience". If I read "2012-2013" I can't tell if someone has been at a place ~12 months or ~1 month. This information is very important. Also, please calculate the durations to allow readers to grasp tenure faster.…

> Force people My god. Even on LinkedIn it is optional. I was out of work for a year and a half for personal reasons, and I conceal that fact from clueless tech recruiters by having my previous place "2013-2016" and my next as "2017-now". As soon as service "forces people" to fill their form as "tech recruiters" designed, they can just go south.

I just checked: On Linkedin it is indeed optional but they made it look like they force you (https://imgur.com/a/0wdI3Wy)

I almost always see the dates with a month.

CVs are primarily consumed by people who hire people, why wouldn't you listen to what they say?

If you had to be out of work for a year and a half for personal reasons, just put it there. Trying to conceal stuff can work, but might not; hence, isn't the most conservative idea. All the best.

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Tech recruiter here. Pros: + Very beautifully designed project + Super readability Big, easy to fix negative: Force people to add months to the years! You only asks the year when someone started in "Work Experience". If I read "2012-2013" I can't tell if someone has been at a place ~12 months or ~1 month. This information is very important. Also, please calculate the durations to allow readers to grasp tenure faster.…

> + Super readability I disagree; it uses a fraction of the available screen size (optimized for mobile?), the font is small, and worse, it's grey-on-white; the contrast is too low. I also did a bamboozle; turns out the profile on the linked page here is not actually the demo, but just an image / screenshot on a landing page. Didn't really clock that it was a landing page; maybe link directly to the example and updat…

Now that you say it, I'd also wish for bigger font and more contrast.

Re: Show HN: I made an alternative platform for professional profiles

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This looks really nice and I especially love the neat URLs!

One thing it got me thinking: since the UI is really nice, could this be an opportunity to create a defacto standard computer-readable format for CVs? Something that I could upload or link into a job application site and it would automatically extract the required info or put through various converters to get different designs and formats.

I guess the second part specifically would be in a way competing with your core product, but I'm sure many people would appreciate the ability to get data out (and maybe in?) using some kind of text format (this might also possibly be required by the GDPR, but I don't know too much about that).

Re: Show HN: I made an alternative platform for professional profiles

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post #110

Definitely beautiful and would love for something simple and clean to eat LinkedIn's lunch. I don't have much to add in addition to everyone else except this: I am really disturbed by the common meme of faces-inside-circles. Why do we need faces? It just distracts from the content. I love the idea of being able to link former colleagues together - that's neat - but I'm very anti-face and there are any number of ways…

We should do away with names on applications as well. Names can tell me about the gender and often the ethnicity of the applicant, which are both also ripe for discriminating against. With an online application, we can just replace the applicant's name with an ID number and associate the two in some database that the employer doesn't see until the applicant is hired.

Actually, now with remote work, even after the applicant is hired, we still never have to see or hear them at all! We can just keep referring to them as Employee #1672378623, use a randomly-generated avatar for our Zoom meetings, and filter everyone's voice through voice-changer software. Bias-be-gone!

Re: Show HN: I made an alternative platform for professional profiles

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Andy, congratulations on shipping a product! It's a good idea and using .cv for CVs is a nice touch. That said, here's how your website looks on my 27" 2560x1440 display: https://i.imgur.com/5dsRIlN.png I'm sorry, but I have to be harsher than usual with my (granted, unsolicited) feedback now because you've been a designer for 11 years and I find your design - to be blunt - inconsiderate and inconsistent. I hope you…

Why are you being an asshole? Seems Inconsiderate. You can remove those "Seems Inconsiderate" and still give feedback.

Andy should be experienced enough to be able to handle non-sugar-coated feedback, unlike you, it seems (based on your comment).

My sugarcoated feedback to you is to please try to refrain from resorting to name calling when disagreeing with another person. It shifts the discussion from facts to feelings and that's typically counter-productive. I hope you'll take the time to reflect on this and attempt to change your approach in the future. Thank you and good luck with your endeavors in 2021 and beyond.

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Tech recruiter here. Pros: + Very beautifully designed project + Super readability Big, easy to fix negative: Force people to add months to the years! You only asks the year when someone started in "Work Experience". If I read "2012-2013" I can't tell if someone has been at a place ~12 months or ~1 month. This information is very important. Also, please calculate the durations to allow readers to grasp tenure faster.…

> Force people My god. Even on LinkedIn it is optional. I was out of work for a year and a half for personal reasons, and I conceal that fact from clueless tech recruiters by having my previous place "2013-2016" and my next as "2017-now". As soon as service "forces people" to fill their form as "tech recruiters" designed, they can just go south.

If I were a recruiter, I would find the fact that you were trying to hide a year and a half much more sketchy than just seeing that you were "out of work" for that period...

Re: Show HN: I made an alternative platform for professional profiles

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Back in 1960's, my dad worked as a draftsman. His work was impeccable. But once in a while, he got told, pretty harshly that this is a piece of shit. And he had to work 15 hours to fix a mistake. No, I am not talking about a typo which can be marked with a white marker. Hard-to-objectively-evaluate things like "Dimensions are just not as readable as they can be. You could arrange them this way, look. It's better." He…

> Find out why they're passionately criticizing it. Sometimes this is just "because they're an arsehole" and the criticism is garbage. > people who are really good at stuff are drowned in the noise Or people who could be really good at stuff get disheartened by the harsh criticism and we as a society lose out.

> Sometimes this is just "because they're an arsehole" and the criticism is garbage

It’s pretty trivial to tell who is genuinely passionate and who is an asshole. Especially if you already know them personally.

> Or people who could be really good at stuff get disheartened by the harsh criticism and we as a society lose out.

Taking offense from an asshole, not being able to ignore them, all these traits are part of being successful. We can afford to lose a few people because they took offense to anything and everything. Maybe it’s different for minors and young adults. I’m addressing adults.

Re: Show HN: I made an alternative platform for professional profiles

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post #110

Definitely beautiful and would love for something simple and clean to eat LinkedIn's lunch. I don't have much to add in addition to everyone else except this: I am really disturbed by the common meme of faces-inside-circles. Why do we need faces? It just distracts from the content. I love the idea of being able to link former colleagues together - that's neat - but I'm very anti-face and there are any number of ways…

We should do away with names on applications as well. Names can tell me about the gender and often the ethnicity of the applicant, which are both also ripe for discriminating against. With an online application, we can just replace the applicant's name with an ID number and associate the two in some database that the employer doesn't see until the applicant is hired. Actually, now with remote work, even after the app…

Sounds like how Illuminati meetings are depicted.

You won't hear objections from me.

Re: Show HN: I made an alternative platform for professional profiles

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post #110

Definitely beautiful and would love for something simple and clean to eat LinkedIn's lunch. I don't have much to add in addition to everyone else except this: I am really disturbed by the common meme of faces-inside-circles. Why do we need faces? It just distracts from the content. I love the idea of being able to link former colleagues together - that's neat - but I'm very anti-face and there are any number of ways…

We should do away with names on applications as well. Names can tell me about the gender and often the ethnicity of the applicant, which are both also ripe for discriminating against. With an online application, we can just replace the applicant's name with an ID number and associate the two in some database that the employer doesn't see until the applicant is hired. Actually, now with remote work, even after the app…

Would that be the same number you tattooed on their arms, or is this too humanizing for this approach?
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