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My Google Traffic Has Fallen to Zero

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Re: My Google Traffic Has Fallen to Zero

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For this reason and spam calls, I have a free Google Voice number that I use for all services. I never give my cell #...

Their numbers aren't always accepted with various entities. I just tried to register with irs.gov, for example, unsuccessfully.

There are whole blocks of legitimate carriers that aren't accepted with various entities. Last time I tried to make a Facebook account I went so far as to buy a phone and a cell plan to try to get a number that would validate in their system, but they wouldn't budge.

Re: My Google Traffic Has Fallen to Zero

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Only very recently I discussed with a friend, that we have come to a situation, in which the search engine dictates, what the content of a website should be or what it should be designed like. Such a thing can only happen with quasi monopolies, which make traffic from the search engine too valuable to miss out on, for people, who depend on that traffic.

Re: My Google Traffic Has Fallen to Zero

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Not knowing what you do besides reading this: Maybe do a subscription for badges that merchants can put next to their products. (The services I've seen of that kind were horrible and they do not inspire confidence. The best some do is give the buyer some hope it isn't a fake webstore.) I think the web badly needs some primordial review mechanism.

Re: My Google Traffic Has Fallen to Zero

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> My mom forgot her gmail password and no longer had the same mobile number for a reset, the secondary reset option was set to my email but would not send a reset despite this. I’m in a similar position except I know my password. Google decided for whatever reason that my location was too different and now requires that I verify via a phone number I no longer have. I have access to the recovery email and even get ‘su…

I'll echo the sentiments in this thread except for the swear words at Google. Losing access to a Gmail for similar reasons has been a net positive, though at the time it was mildly frustrating. I haven't gotten sucked into their aggressive cross-selling of all their products, and the consequences of always being logged in. Occasionally I can't view or comment on something. You can bookmark 5 YouTube channels without…

Same here. I use Teddit.net for Reddit, Newpipe for Youtube and one of the nitter.net instances for Twitter. All the content without the clutter and fast, as well as a lower temptation to get into flamewars etc.

(In Newpipe you can subscribe to creators' channels, see the comments and their other videos. You just can't comment from there.)

Re: My Google Traffic Has Fallen to Zero

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I’ve had similar experiences with other google products: My mom forgot her gmail password and no longer had the same mobile number for a reset, the secondary reset option was set to my email but would not send a reset despite this. We had a live session via thunderbird but there were no channels of support. Luckily we were able to register her old mobile number to achieve a password reset, thanks to a helpful phone p…

> My mom forgot her gmail password and no longer had the same mobile number for a reset, the secondary reset option was set to my email but would not send a reset despite this. I’m in a similar position except I know my password. Google decided for whatever reason that my location was too different and now requires that I verify via a phone number I no longer have. I have access to the recovery email and even get ‘su…

I've had the same issue twice, but it worked fine for me. I just filled the form on the login page, and after a couple of days I received an email telling me 2-fa has been disabled. The only issue I had was that 2-fa was only temporarily disabled and not permanently as I thought, so I had to do it a second time when I tried to relog a few days after and then I changed my number.

Re: My Google Traffic Has Fallen to Zero

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To add my voice to the ever-growing chorus: I'm in a similar situation, except in this case despite my still having session cookies stored on several devices, all of which were logged-out simultaneously, it's requiring a new phone number. When I eventually gave one grudgingly (one used on most of the other accounts listed along side this account in Google's account switcher), it still tells me I'm locked out and to "…

Yeah, I've got an account I haven't had access to in about ten years that I still can't get in to. I try and reset it from time to time and just always get the "try again later". I'm pretty sure I even have the correct password, but it thinks my login is suspicious since it's from a new/unfamiliar device so requires me to further authenticate myself except I no longer have access to the phone number associated with i…

Keep in mind gmail doesnt forward messages regarded as spam.

Re: My Google Traffic Has Fallen to Zero

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No. It'll be a token.

What does it being a token have to do with anything? An unencrypted token is just as vulnerable as an unencrypted password.

Tokens have defined scope and expire, so not the same as a password that doesn’t have these limitations.

Re: My Google Traffic Has Fallen to Zero

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The website is not particularly well designed. I have to scroll down a 2/3 of the whole page filling _button_ first, to get to any readable content. Perhaps that is why it is treated as spam to Google. Reader mode in Firefox helps of course to repair the page.

Aside from that, yes, this is what happens, when we rely on Google traffic. Only advice I can give besides designing well (not necessarily according to Google wishes though), is to not get too dependent on Google.

Re: My Google Traffic Has Fallen to Zero

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This 2020 year even my google traffic reduced by 80%. On my blog SQLwithManoj.com I used to get decent 3k-4k hits every day for last 4-5 years. But since Jan 2020 hits got reduced below 1k. And when I checked google webmaster I couldn't see my blog meta entry. Don't know how it got removed from there. Now since I've added it back the hits are still at around 1k, and this has cased good revenue loss for me too.

Re: My Google Traffic Has Fallen to Zero

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> My mom forgot her gmail password and no longer had the same mobile number for a reset, the secondary reset option was set to my email but would not send a reset despite this. I’m in a similar position except I know my password. Google decided for whatever reason that my location was too different and now requires that I verify via a phone number I no longer have. I have access to the recovery email and even get ‘su…

This is one reason I will not give out a phone number for the vast majority of services. If that means I can't use something, so be it. Building proprietary, impossible-to-understand Rube Goldberg mechanisms based on associations between accidental aspects of my life (location:phone number pairs, for instance) is not a security system, it is a design for randomly fucking me over. If your system is designed to fuck me…

"Building proprietary, impossible-to-understand Rube Goldberg mechanisms based on associations between accidental aspects of my life (location:phone number pairs, for instance) is not a security system."

It is a system for building better profiles of potential targets for advertising. Gathering data is a means to improve online advertising services to Google's customers. The more data you volunteer, the more their online advertising services can potentially improve. That is one way to look at it.

From another perspective, all the "security" measures are a red flag for me that Gmail accounts are high risk if using for important, personal matters. (And that people are increasingly using it for such things.) The available solutions to that problem from the user's perspective should include the option to stop using Gmail, not simply to support Google's rollout of the next set of Kafkaesque "security" processes that incidentally always require more privacy sacrafices.

Giving me a notice that a User-Agent header changed (by suggesting they have detected a "new device") is not my idea of "security", but it reminds me that this data point is among the ones they are collecting for their online advertising services. It makes me wonder what assumptions and proclamations someone might be making based on such "evidence". I did an experiment where I saved a session cookie for an account I registered and used it outside the browser weeks later, without any User-Agent header. It worked flawlessly and I got no warnings of a "new device". Makes one wonder what is in that cookie and how long it will last. Is it restricted to IP address/location. If it never expires, then if an attacker ever gets a session cookie and the user never logs out of that session, the attacker will be able to "silently" use the account, forever. Yikes.

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