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LA: Ambulance crews to not transport patients with little chance of survival

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Re: LA: Ambulance crews to not transport patients with little chance of survival

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Euthanasia ?

What are they supposed to do? Sometimes dealing with reality involves some pretty uncomfortable choices to make, even when that essentially makes you the bad guy.

The real issue here is that the economy was prematurely reopened before it was safe -- we have far more than enough money as a nation to have prevented this scenario from happening and chose a path of destruction out of sheer avarice instead.

Re: LA: Ambulance crews to not transport patients with little chance of survival

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Why are some proven simple yet _useful_ preventative measures not taken? Like, promoting self blood oxygen monitoring with those (cheap!) finger oxymeter devices for all at-risk persons...

This would avoid lots of late emergency calls in critical condition due to silent hypoxia that developed in them for days/weeks...

Re: LA: Ambulance crews to not transport patients with little chance of survival

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Why are some proven simple yet _useful_ preventative measures not taken? Like, promoting self blood oxygen monitoring with those (cheap!) finger oxymeter devices for all at-risk persons... This would avoid lots of late emergency calls in critical condition due to silent hypoxia that developed in them for days/weeks...

Vitamin D supplements too.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32252338/

Re: LA: Ambulance crews to not transport patients with little chance of survival

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While the headline makes it sound like Grandma isn't getting a ride because she's frail, "little chance of survival" is more specific:

> Patients who are not to be transported to hospitals include those whose hearts have stopped and, despite efforts at resuscitation, have no signs of breathing, movement, a pulse or blood pressure and would be declared dead at the scene.

Re: LA: Ambulance crews to not transport patients with little chance of survival

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Why are some proven simple yet _useful_ preventative measures not taken? Like, promoting self blood oxygen monitoring with those (cheap!) finger oxymeter devices for all at-risk persons... This would avoid lots of late emergency calls in critical condition due to silent hypoxia that developed in them for days/weeks...

The commonly-used treatments for hypoxia are incredibly damaging. In the beginning "ventilation" was the go-to treatment to pump oxygen into patients' lungs. Doctors eventually realized invasive ventilation was a death sentence. Now they're trying to just use lots of oxygen, but that doesn't work either.

A lot of people had COVID-19 before tests were available. What happened to make the disease so much more deadly? I think most the early patients (December 2019, January/February 2020) toughed it out on their own at home.

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