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Re: Show HN: I made an alternative platform for professional profiles

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Post by benedikt » Tue, Jan 05, 2021, 1:41 AM UTC

wsdrdsw wrote: post #134

etrautmann wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is really tough - humans are hardwired to form connections and remember people by recognizing faces. This, of course, is also exactly the problem, in that it allows for bias or prejudice of many different types to influence our judgements. I think I agree with you that the downsides and inherent unfairness of the genetic attractiveness lottery outweigh the upsides of attaching a name to a face. It's an empirical…

With real names, faces are just one google search away for most people (and we could debate further what would it mean if a face wasn't found). Functionally the website would be a wasteland of white sameness without portraits, no way around that I think. I'm not entirely convinced this service solves the linkedin pitfall of mingling jumphoppers racking up impressive paper stats and polluting the signal.

You can’t really stop people from finding your face online if it’s on social media, but you can present the information so that you’d first read the text and then see a photo.

Move the photo on the profile to the bottom of it, and make it optional.

Re: Show HN: I made an alternative platform for professional profiles

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Post by Shoue » Tue, Jan 05, 2021, 1:52 AM UTC

vbtemp wrote: post #110

Definitely beautiful and would love for something simple and clean to eat LinkedIn's lunch. I don't have much to add in addition to everyone else except this: I am really disturbed by the common meme of faces-inside-circles. Why do we need faces? It just distracts from the content. I love the idea of being able to link former colleagues together - that's neat - but I'm very anti-face and there are any number of ways…

Around ten direct replies to your post and I still don't feel like the reason why pictures on CVs is a bad idea has been explained explicitly.

I'm in the UK, where race, age, gender, religion, disability are among protected characteristics. As such, that information, should it be included, is often either stripped from the CV automatically or the CV discarded entirely to obviate the risk of being accused of discrimination.

Re: Show HN: I made an alternative platform for professional profiles

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Post by dylan604 » Tue, Jan 05, 2021, 2:00 AM UTC

fedd wrote: post #168

vbtemp wrote: post #110

Definitely beautiful and would love for something simple and clean to eat LinkedIn's lunch. I don't have much to add in addition to everyone else except this: I am really disturbed by the common meme of faces-inside-circles. Why do we need faces? It just distracts from the content. I love the idea of being able to link former colleagues together - that's neat - but I'm very anti-face and there are any number of ways…

but what if my face is quite pretty and I want to share its outlook in some circle?

Might I suggest something more appropriate where other users are looking for it like Insta/FB/etc. Maybe if you're so special, try looking for an agent and get on a billboard on the side of the highway so that I can show you my improvemnts with a can of spray paint

Re: Show HN: I made an alternative platform for professional profiles

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Post by bilekas » Tue, Jan 05, 2021, 2:03 AM UTC

jedberg wrote: post #146

This is a good start, but I'm not a huge fan of this the way it is now. First, the font is tiny for my old eyes. Not all of us, especially hiring managers, are still in their 20s and can read these tiny fonts. I measured it with a ruler and the text is 1mm tall. Also, the font is gray on white, which is pretty but hard to read. In contrast, Linkedin is three times bigger and black on white, much easier to read. Secon…

> the text is 1mm tall.

That's relative.. But maybe it was as a joke. Because it's funny to imagine someone with a ruler measuring their screen ^^

> I would say a good place to start would be asking yourself, "Why does Linkedin look the way it does?".

I don't like this trope personally. It works for linkedIn because it was what Monster and other sites were not.

If its to be different, embrace it, listen to customers as you say. Don't just take what's already been done with a slight knock off feel.

As for the site itself and concept its nice and super clean, definitely fits into a lot of designers/developers ideals. Recruiters will want the analytic data but doesnt seem thats the market.

An exportable html/pdf page of your profile would be nice to give users too. Just because it gives ossum designers and whoever to extend on the clean template for themselves.

Re: Show HN: I made an alternative platform for professional profiles

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Post by accented » Tue, Jan 05, 2021, 2:07 AM UTC

Faces aside, why does it need a pronoun right next to the name?

Looks nice and all, but I'll start using one of these sites when they focus on work history and products instead of pictures and pronouns.

Re: Show HN: I made an alternative platform for professional profiles

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Post by oliv__ » Tue, Jan 05, 2021, 2:12 AM UTC

cubano wrote: post #169

offtop5 wrote: post #152

Would love an option to remove photos. Employment discrimination is absolutely rampant, and I would hate for someone who is perceived by Western society to be more attractive to be given a leg up on platforms like this. Scary enough the first thing many people do on dating apps is to hit the ethnic filter button ( proud to say I've been social media / dating app free for years), but now that same mindset's going to g…

Hiring, by definition, is mostly discrimination. Otherwise, people would just hire the first person you received a resume from who had the solid qualifications and experience you needed. But no...of course that's not what happens. Managers go through the Kabuki dance with the potential employee just trying to find a small "chink in the armor" to quickly disqualify them. It's called the "initial screen" of course, and…

Living is discrimination.

Re: Show HN: I made an alternative platform for professional profiles

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Post by subpixel » Tue, Jan 05, 2021, 2:15 AM UTC

vbtemp wrote: post #110

Definitely beautiful and would love for something simple and clean to eat LinkedIn's lunch. I don't have much to add in addition to everyone else except this: I am really disturbed by the common meme of faces-inside-circles. Why do we need faces? It just distracts from the content. I love the idea of being able to link former colleagues together - that's neat - but I'm very anti-face and there are any number of ways…

I agree about the faces but I’ll go further - even if it were a list of names, it’s a distraction. My professional profile is about me. I can mention partners and collaborators in my position/project descriptions. You can drill down to find out who my colleagues are. But nobody has ever wished LinkedIn had a MySpace-style top eight.

Re: Show HN: I made an alternative platform for professional profiles

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Post by deftnerd » Tue, Jan 05, 2021, 2:18 AM UTC

_andychung wrote: post #42

MattGaiser wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Check your junk. That is where mine ended up.

Welp, sorry about that. Wonder if the .cv tld makes has anything to do with this...

If this does grow, it might be worth getting another domain just for email purposes such as "read-cv-email.com".

Re: Show HN: I made an alternative platform for professional profiles

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Post by imbnwa » Tue, Jan 05, 2021, 2:19 AM UTC

Shoue wrote: post #172

vbtemp wrote: post #110

Definitely beautiful and would love for something simple and clean to eat LinkedIn's lunch. I don't have much to add in addition to everyone else except this: I am really disturbed by the common meme of faces-inside-circles. Why do we need faces? It just distracts from the content. I love the idea of being able to link former colleagues together - that's neat - but I'm very anti-face and there are any number of ways…

Around ten direct replies to your post and I still don't feel like the reason why pictures on CVs is a bad idea has been explained explicitly. I'm in the UK, where race, age, gender, religion, disability are among protected characteristics. As such, that information, should it be included, is often either stripped from the CV automatically or the CV discarded entirely to obviate the risk of being accused of discrimin…

I mean no one's made an argument why it shouldn't be _optional_ if it already isn't either, as well as people are confusing the context of HR/Hiring Manager's shifting through resumes and traversing their own social graph on LinkedIn whether by search or connections list.

This site could even, when it gets up to supporting some social graph, separate the two views, HR is using bookmarks/folder organization/some other means of solving that problem anyway so "photos key to memory" is irrelevant

Re: Show HN: I made an alternative platform for professional profiles

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Post by signaru » Tue, Jan 05, 2021, 2:23 AM UTC

Could a word/character limit also be considered? I have seen people who write bloated almost-autobiographies wherever an online profile allows them to.