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Neofeudalism and the Digital Manor

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Re: Neofeudalism and the Digital Manor

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IP laws are bad because they have been taken past any sane limit. However the original terms would are not too onerous, with provisions and updates there is no reason not to give the people who invent things short and clear monopolies on their ideas. 15 years is plenty of time, then everything needs to be released into the public domain.

>with provisions and updates there is no reason not to give the people who invent things short and clear monopolies on their ideas. The lack of a monopoly creates competition which accelerates innovation and leads to cheaper, higher quality products for the consumer. The person who invents a product should simply be one competitor in the market, they can have the first mover advantage, but shouldn't be allowed to con…

> The lack of a monopoly creates competition which accelerates innovation and leads to cheaper, higher quality products for the consumer. The person who invents a product should simply be one competitor in the market, they can have the first mover advantage, but shouldn't be allowed to control the market entirely.

But that obviously wouldn't as work well, because:

1. The inventor would pay the R&D costs with no good way to recoup them, because he'd be competing against knockoffs who didn't have to make that investment, and can price accordingly. You'd be putting the actual inventor at a disadvantage.

2. There'd be no incentive for inventors to actually publish designs for their inventions. Most people who argue against patents as a concept forget is that to get one you have to publish plans for your idea openly, which makes it much easier to copy. The limited monopoly is an incentive to part with that information. You'd end up leaving the public domain poorer.

3. Invention and production are different skillsets. For an author to get paid for writing, they shouldn't need to own a printing press and distribution network. It's a good thing that good, successful authors can make their livings by writing and not always be forced to sustain themselves with a day job.

The original ideas behind IP are very, very sounds. What we need is to roll back how the implementation of those ideas has been corrupted to society's detriment.

Re: Neofeudalism and the Digital Manor

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The packages you download can be easily inferred even transmitted over tls. What does tls buy you? That's the argument at least. You could always download them over tor.

I think the concern is more about man-in-the-middle attacks. Even then, though, doesn't apt verify the hashes of downloaded packages?

How do you trust distribution if you also have mirrors all across the globe (that are not Cononical's machines)?

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Cory Doctorow is a sci-fi author and has written cyberpunk fiction, calling corporate empires "warlords" seems par for the genre. Scott Galloway has called GAFA "the four horseman" and Bruce Sterling calls them "the Stacks."

I mean at some point, they could cross the line into warlord territory if other institutions decline too much. It’s a dark world fantasy extrapolation parallel to ‘the handmaids tale’ or even ‘qanon’. There are hints at the realities being described, but we really aren’t anywhere near them being accurate.

> There are hints at the realities being described, but we really aren’t anywhere near them being accurate.

The problem is that they can become a reality at the flick of a switch.

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> Consider that this blog post frames the issue as one of surveillance, instead of an anti-malware effort. It does address the idea of this system being intended to combat malware in the fourth and fifth paragraphs. The point it makes is that there's nothing stopping it from being used against legitimate software too, other than the benevolence of the "warlord" who controls it, so you're still just trusting them to p…

“you're still just trusting them to protect you and hoping they don't take advantage of it” That is exactly what Apple’s customers are doing. It actually a pretty normal feature of modern society to trust institutions or businesses not to take advantage of particular powers they have. It’s really bizarre to call a business a ‘warlord’. The converse, where we can’t trust any institution or business and we must all be…

> It’s really bizarre to call a business a ‘warlord’.

It's not more bizarre than calling someone else's servers "the cloud". I'd call GAFAM warlords because they are monopolistic, force their unwanted preferences upon users and buy up competition so there is none to migrate to.

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What really puzzles me about Apple fans and it's userbase is that they do not care . They simply do not care at all what's being done to them. It's the strongest example of consumer cultism. Absolute in their exceptionalism and ignorance. Similar problems discussed in the article are found in Tesla. The lowest common denominator of consumer cultism is surveillance and it's no surprise that both Apple and Tesla do exc…

Apple and Tesla do perfectly well everywhere, in China and guess what, in Switzerland, one of the most democratic countries there is. You are suffering from strong does of selection bias.

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He's a very eloquent writer. As far as I know, the door isn't quite shut on macos, and maybe a ulysses pact is sort of in place. But if they could do that for ios, I would be so. happy.

I only see two differences between MacOS and iOS: kernel development is allowed on MacOS, and running self-signed code doesn't delete itself even if you don't pay like it does on iOS. Running unsigned code doesn't exist on MacOS anymore with Big Sur, unless you self-sign everything. Stop kernel development (going to be "higher friction" going forward) and a daemon to delete self-signed code, and it's iOS.

Allowing neutral parties to do app-signing for Chromebooks, Windows 10 S or i/MacOS (the way SSL-certs are issued and trusted by browsers, Mozilla App Store anyone?), alternative app stores (iOS), alternative signed-OSes on hardware (Occulus) are all Ulysses pacts that Apple, Google, Microsoft, Facebook and others could do.

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What really puzzles me about Apple fans and it's userbase is that they do not care . They simply do not care at all what's being done to them. It's the strongest example of consumer cultism. Absolute in their exceptionalism and ignorance. Similar problems discussed in the article are found in Tesla. The lowest common denominator of consumer cultism is surveillance and it's no surprise that both Apple and Tesla do exc…

> What really puzzles me about Apple fans and it's userbase is that they do not care. They simply do not care at all what's being done to them. Or, you know, we're as informed (or more) than you, but have different priorities and opinions. Other people that are not merely mindless sheep, where you and those agreeing with you are the only smart people? What a wild concept! I've used anything, from 4 major unices of yo…

>> What really puzzles me about Apple fans and it's userbase is that they do not care. They simply do not care at all what's being done to them.

> we have different priorities

That's a different way of saying "we don't care". You aren't really contradicting the other person's point.

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“you're still just trusting them to protect you and hoping they don't take advantage of it” That is exactly what Apple’s customers are doing. It actually a pretty normal feature of modern society to trust institutions or businesses not to take advantage of particular powers they have. It’s really bizarre to call a business a ‘warlord’. The converse, where we can’t trust any institution or business and we must all be…

> It’s really bizarre to call a business a ‘warlord’. It's not more bizarre than calling someone else's servers "the cloud". I'd call GAFAM warlords because they are monopolistic, force their unwanted preferences upon users and buy up competition so there is none to migrate to.

The big difference between warlords and these companies is that a warlord uses force and often violence to gain power.

These companies have gained power by selling things people are choosing to buy.

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What really puzzles me about Apple fans and it's userbase is that they do not care . They simply do not care at all what's being done to them. It's the strongest example of consumer cultism. Absolute in their exceptionalism and ignorance. Similar problems discussed in the article are found in Tesla. The lowest common denominator of consumer cultism is surveillance and it's no surprise that both Apple and Tesla do exc…

> What really puzzles me about Apple fans and it's userbase is that they do not care. They simply do not care at all what's being done to them. Or, you know, we're as informed (or more) than you, but have different priorities and opinions. Other people that are not merely mindless sheep, where you and those agreeing with you are the only smart people? What a wild concept! I've used anything, from 4 major unices of yo…

> I still enjoy macOS

I would enjoy macOS if it subscribed to open source ideals, but then it wouldn't be Apple right

> You are free to buy something else.

That's exactly the advice I give to everyone who asks me about appel

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I mean at some point, they could cross the line into warlord territory if other institutions decline too much. It’s a dark world fantasy extrapolation parallel to ‘the handmaids tale’ or even ‘qanon’. There are hints at the realities being described, but we really aren’t anywhere near them being accurate.

> There are hints at the realities being described, but we really aren’t anywhere near them being accurate. The problem is that they can become a reality at the flick of a switch.

Not really.

It would take a lot more than a flick of a switch.

They are already under a lot of scrutiny from governments without having flicked such a switch (whatever you imagine that switch to do).

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