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Neofeudalism and the Digital Manor

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Re: Neofeudalism and the Digital Manor

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Post by f430 »

SoSoRoCoCo wrote: post #47
f430 wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If what you are communicating needs to be guaranteed to never be crackable, you only need to use the oldest and most secure way of communicating before the days of internet and computers: short wave transmitted one time pad codes. The reason that number stations continue to operate is that it really is the best way to communicate/order under surveillance which almost certainly is happening in every embassy in non-fri…

It's not that I'm a spy. It's that I want to protect myself digitally as much as possible, despite being forced to interface with the internet by large institutions. We can go back and time and argue about the lack of security just four decades ago (George Hayduke[1] had a series of books on how to exfiltrate info in the 60's & 70's through social engineering). However, here we are: in a virtual world that is simulta…

I would like to have read that book before I made peace and decided that spectacular success is THE best revenge.

Like the old Jewish saying: "Living a good happy life is the best revenge"

Still, it needs a read but for pure entertainment. I will add it to my wish list

Re: Neofeudalism and the Digital Manor

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Post by konjin »

krapp wrote: post #57
konjin wrote: post #52

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IP laws are bad because they have been taken past any sane limit. However the original terms would are not too onerous, with provisions and updates there is no reason not to give the people who invent things short and clear monopolies on their ideas. 15 years is plenty of time, then everything needs to be released into the public domain.

>with provisions and updates there is no reason not to give the people who invent things short and clear monopolies on their ideas. The lack of a monopoly creates competition which accelerates innovation and leads to cheaper, higher quality products for the consumer. The person who invents a product should simply be one competitor in the market, they can have the first mover advantage, but shouldn't be allowed to con…

>If we believe in the FOSS ethos

I don't. So what now?

Re: Neofeudalism and the Digital Manor

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Post by f430 »

ardy42 wrote: post #41
f430 wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If what you are communicating needs to be guaranteed to never be crackable, you only need to use the oldest and most secure way of communicating before the days of internet and computers: short wave transmitted one time pad codes. The reason that number stations continue to operate is that it really is the best way to communicate/order under surveillance which almost certainly is happening in every embassy in non-fri…

> If what you are communicating needs to be guaranteed to never be crackable, you only need to use the oldest and most secure way of communicating before the days of internet and computers: short wave transmitted one time pad codes. I'd say using a dead drop is probably even older and more secure. I don't think it'd attract any extra attention unless you're already being followed. A numbers station is really only use…

> dead drop

yes but it really needs to be remote because they caught ppl doing it like that American spy in the 80s.

I know in South Korea, dead drop is a popular method of peddling drugs but ppl still get busted.

I agree number stations are overkill but perhaps some similar methods...like cartels using email drafts to communicate

Re: Neofeudalism and the Digital Manor

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Post by breck »

wait_a_minute wrote: post #53
breck wrote: post #36

We need to abolish IP Laws (aka "Imaginary Property" aka "Illogical Property" aka "Incongruent Property" aka "Invalidates Property Laws"—the other term is a big lie, don't repeat it). Not "reform". Not "compromise". Abolish. If 2020 taught me anything, it's that society can come close to the brink pretty quickly. I thought there was an inevitable trend toward freedom, but recently think it's perilous. We need ideas t…

I am genuinely interested in understanding how we could have innovation in a world where a creator is not entitled to benefits from their invention. Including any monetary benefits if they so choose.

If everyone who says they will stop creating new bits if they can't control people anymore, were to stop creating new bits, that would be a great world.

(Btw, an example for your question is to look up the origin of this thing we are using to communicate—the WWW)

Re: Neofeudalism and the Digital Manor

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Post by [deleted] »

konjin wrote: post #62
krapp wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>with provisions and updates there is no reason not to give the people who invent things short and clear monopolies on their ideas. The lack of a monopoly creates competition which accelerates innovation and leads to cheaper, higher quality products for the consumer. The person who invents a product should simply be one competitor in the market, they can have the first mover advantage, but shouldn't be allowed to con…

>If we believe in the FOSS ethos I don't. So what now?

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Re: Neofeudalism and the Digital Manor

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Post by breck »

konjin wrote: post #52
breck wrote: post #36

We need to abolish IP Laws (aka "Imaginary Property" aka "Illogical Property" aka "Incongruent Property" aka "Invalidates Property Laws"—the other term is a big lie, don't repeat it). Not "reform". Not "compromise". Abolish. If 2020 taught me anything, it's that society can come close to the brink pretty quickly. I thought there was an inevitable trend toward freedom, but recently think it's perilous. We need ideas t…

IP laws are bad because they have been taken past any sane limit. However the original terms would are not too onerous, with provisions and updates there is no reason not to give the people who invent things short and clear monopolies on their ideas. 15 years is plenty of time, then everything needs to be released into the public domain.

Slavery laws are bad because they have been taken past any sane limit. However the original terms would are not too onerous, with provisions and updates there is no reason not to give the people with capital short and clear monopolies on their slaves.

15 years is plenty of time, then every slave needs to be released into the public domain.

Re: Neofeudalism and the Digital Manor

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Post by amelius »

walterbell wrote: post #58
gen220 wrote: post #9

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You could run your system completely in RAM, to at least limit the duration of exposure. Persistence is overrated! :)

Or a VM with snapshots / non-persistent storage.

How do you apply security updates?

Re: Neofeudalism and the Digital Manor

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Post by nine_k »

cosmojg wrote: post #32
dmm wrote: post #26

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The packages you download can be easily inferred even transmitted over tls. What does tls buy you? That's the argument at least. You could always download them over tor.

I think the concern is more about man-in-the-middle attacks. Even then, though, doesn't apt verify the hashes of downloaded packages?

How does apt get said hashes? That's the key problem.

Re: Neofeudalism and the Digital Manor

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Post by krapp »

konjin wrote: post #62
krapp wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>with provisions and updates there is no reason not to give the people who invent things short and clear monopolies on their ideas. The lack of a monopoly creates competition which accelerates innovation and leads to cheaper, higher quality products for the consumer. The person who invents a product should simply be one competitor in the market, they can have the first mover advantage, but shouldn't be allowed to con…

>If we believe in the FOSS ethos I don't. So what now?

You can sit down and let someone less pedantic take the floor.
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