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Post by ksm1717 »

eric_b wrote: post #78
TimTheTinker wrote: post #68

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> but this reeks of a strange "pro COVID lockdown" narrative I've been seeing lately. Along with phrases like "the new normal" and such. There does seem to be a push to keep people from wanting and expecting to go back to the real normal anytime soon. Though who stands to gain from this alternate reality? It would seem the liberal left wants to normalize it (even post-vaccine), but I don't understand why.

Agreed - it's certainly a left-leaning narrative. I don't understand the "why" of any of it anymore. The far-left folks are pro lockdown but also want to help the underprivileged. No one is hurt worse by lockdowns. They want to defund the police, and yet by now even the hardened ideologue can admit that less police is maybe not a great plan. The left is anti-authoritarian but engages in almost textbook authoritarian…

Great rant, I liked how completely irrelevant it was

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Post by reaperducer »

coldtea wrote: post #145
reaperducer wrote: post #122

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Oohh look at these people with more than one room! I feel ya. Back when I was running a one-man startup, I had myself, my wife, and a cat in 450 square feet. Except when I was out gladhanding potential clients, I worked from my bed. At least back then, I could decamp for Starbucks if I got the crazies. But today's studio apartment dwellers are really screwed. Especially if you live somewhere hot, somewhere cold, or a…

> I had myself, my wife, and a cat in 450 square feet So, like the average "family with 2 kids" size of house in most of the world :-)

The average global house size is much larger than that. China has the smallest at 500 square feet, so my point stands.

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Post by ciceryadam »

reaperducer wrote: post #162
coldtea wrote: post #145

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> I had myself, my wife, and a cat in 450 square feet So, like the average "family with 2 kids" size of house in most of the world :-)

The average global house size is much larger than that. China has the smallest at 500 square feet, so my point stands.

House size maybe, but that leaves out bunch of other types of living. Not just apartments, but slum huts, refugee camp tents, and so on.

Re: Working from Bed

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Post by axguscbklp »

Raphmedia wrote: post #25

On the opposite, I'd say it's a great way to destroy your sleep routine and habits. As a rule of thumb, your bed should be dedicated to sleep and cuddles with your significant other. "This study indicates that the use of computers and mobile telephones in the bedroom are related to poor sleep habits" https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/j.1365-2869... "Computer use, TV viewing, and the presence of media i…

I've been using computers in bed for many years and as far as I can tell, I have no problems whatsoever with sleeping. Sometimes I stay up late surfing the web and then don't get enough sleep because I have to wake up the next morning to do some bullshit, but I'd do the same thing if I was sitting in a chair - I don't surf the the web at night because my computer devices tempt me into doing it, I do it because it's fun.

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Post by Taniwha »

silicon2401 wrote: post #83
nickelcitymario wrote: post #35

I've wanted to work full-time from home for as long as I can remember. It took about a month in lockdown for me to realize I hated it. Turns out, my mental health is much better when I have an office to go to. 1h20 in commute (round-trip), no privacy, tons of distractions, and still I'm happier when I get to leave the house to go to work. I suspect it's mostly just a matter of getting out of the house. Those 4 walls…

Everybody's different. I've been wfh since the pandemic started, and it's been one of the best times of my life. Even in school I didn't have the bliss of never having to leave my home. My health, exercise routine, diet, sleep routine, work productivity, social life, personal productivity, quality of life in pretty much every aspect have basically all been perfect. Even outside, people keep a little more distance. As…

Yup - I've mostly worked from home since my son was born (he's nearly 30 now) - there's some tricks to making it work - get out of your bathrobe by noon, leave the house every day (harder during lock down of course).

Here in NZ we went thru a heavy lockdown for 6 weeks, I hardly noticed it

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Post by LegitShady »

ciceryadam wrote: post #163
reaperducer wrote: post #162

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The average global house size is much larger than that. China has the smallest at 500 square feet, so my point stands.

House size maybe, but that leaves out bunch of other types of living. Not just apartments, but slum huts, refugee camp tents, and so on.

yes, even setting up a startup, he was not in a slum hut or a refugee camp.

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Post by nucleardog »

nickelcitymario wrote: post #50
trinix912 wrote: post #40

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> Turns out, my mental health is much better when I have an office to go to. 1h20 in commute (round-trip), no privacy, tons of distractions, and still I'm happier when I get to leave the house to go to work. This is very important to me. It helps me forget about work when heading home and vice versa. I also like talking to people in person at the office more than relying on Zoom watercooler rooms.

That commute turns out to be one of my favourite parts of the day. In the mornings, I leave early to workout at the company gym. (Not true at the moment, because all gyms are closed in my area right now.) That commute gives me time to wake up and get into the gym mindset. After work, it gives me time to unwind, let go of the stress for the day, and get into my dad-of-4 mindset. Without it, everything blends together.…

What's your commute like? The common thread I'm finding in the people that don't mind their commute is generally that... their commute isn't terrible.

Mine's 45m-1h to work, and 1h-2h home in a city with notoriously awful traffic design and flow. It's basically just 5 miles of gridlock. In the heavy urban traffic I find it actually _adds_ a lot of stress to my day--it definitely feels like a mad max style survival adventure more than anything.

I used to commute 45 minutes each way on a nice dual line divided highway with very light traffic. Barring the odd blizzard, I found it like you describe... A great chance to let my mind switch states between home/work. And it was nice to have an hour and a half every day where I _couldn't_ beat up on myself for not being productive and could actually just truly sit and enjoy listening to a podcast or something.

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Post by nucleardog »

nickelcitymario wrote: post #76
xwdv wrote: post #70

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I have noticed that most people that say this tend to just have shitty homes. Not every home is suitable for working from, you really need all sorts of amenities and plenty of space to walk around and refocus, and a good outdoor area. If you literally just have 600 sqft of bedroom, living room and kitchen then yea I can see why going to the office would be better.

> shitty homes I mean, that's a bit disparaging. I've seen some beautiful 600 sqft apartments. But to your general point, I agree. I just don't think a space needs to be shitty in order to be inappropriate for daily work. If its small or the area lacks food outdoor amenities, it's easy to get cabin fever.

I think in context that could be read as "shitty for the purpose of also being an office", not a general disparagement of their living situation in general.

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Post by dinkleberg »

nickelcitymario wrote: post #131
dinkleberg wrote: post #123

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I dream that one day I’ll be able to turn my ears on and off at will. Earplugs work alright, but complete silence would be fantastic (personal safety be damned)

I haven't tried them yet, but to my understanding this is a key selling feature of AirPods. Any chance anyone knows how successful these are at noise cancellation (without the use of music to drown out said noise)?

I love my AirPod pros and they do a great job getting rid of background noise. But I’d love a complete absence of sound (temporarily!)

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Post by dullcrisp »

egypturnash wrote: post #153
eric_b wrote: post #78

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Agreed - it's certainly a left-leaning narrative. I don't understand the "why" of any of it anymore. The far-left folks are pro lockdown but also want to help the underprivileged. No one is hurt worse by lockdowns. They want to defund the police, and yet by now even the hardened ideologue can admit that less police is maybe not a great plan. The left is anti-authoritarian but engages in almost textbook authoritarian…

"pro-lockdown" and "why the fuck are we giving people so little money" tend to go together, in my experience. Lock down for a month or two, give everyone more than enough money to cover rent/food/utilities and some entertainment (to keep from going insane), and greatly reduce the spread of this virus. But here we are in the US with a paltry $600 coming after the entire duration of this stupid, stupid pandemic. As to…

Stop that. This thread is for inferring people's intentions and then coming up with appropriately cartoonish motivations.

I personally think the author of this article is trying to give people clinical depression. But I'm having trouble figuring out how that fits into their leftist agenda. Maybe it's because leftists are themselves lazy and unmotivated, and they want to feel better about themselves by sabotaging others? But wouldn't they see that it's unfair to hurt other people just because of their own inadequacies?

I don't know, what do you think? I can't figure it out.

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