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Re: Slack is down

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Post by geocar »

bananabreakfast wrote: post #579
fhrifjr wrote: post #544

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Like Guantanamo Bay or prosecution of Assange for his journalistic work to expose wrongdoing of government? Or maybe you’re talking about for-profit prison system and mass incarceration practices? But you’re probably talking about China, right?

Once again, that is a false equivalence. No one imprisoned in Guantanamo Bay is a US Citizen and neither is Assange. The US prison system is super fucked up but it is not the same as ethnic cleansing. You are comparing apples to concentration camps.

> No one imprisoned in Guantanamo Bay is a US Citizen and neither is Assange.

I think you should I know I -- and probably others, are reading this as "b-b-but, they're not US Citizens, so they don't deserve [the same] rights"

I hope that's not what you mean, because if it is, that's really fucked up.

Re: Slack is down

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Post by adambyrtek »

beamatronic wrote: post #225
Thaxll wrote: post #156

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You just don't deploy something major the first day after a 2 weeks vacation, it does not makes any sense.

It depends on the goal you’re trying to accomplish. Are you going for a promotion or bonus? Or instead is your goal to maximize uptime?

I doubt that regularly releasing breaking changes that reduce uptime is a good strategy to get a bonus or promotion.

Re: Slack is down

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Post by schoolornot »

Havoc wrote: post #519
bww wrote: post #314

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just a reminder that it's probably not a wise idea for anyone to get further in bed with Zoom than they already are. https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2020/12/18/zoom-he...

And yet a surprising number of firms with sensitive info continue to use it. Law firms etc

The lesser of two evils and the product just works. They might have a few governance issues they need to fix. But at the end of the day, they signed a BAA with us and will take the liability and fallout of a breach.

Re: Slack is down

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Post by lylo »

hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #268
lylo wrote: post #214

This is an excellent reminder of the danger of being locked into closed systems. I wonder how many companies (like mine) have literally ground to a halt because of this? Do other companies have a risk-documented backup plan B for times like this? Presumably the default is for everyone to resort to email? More worryingly is the number of ChatOps processes and alerting/observability systems that are in place around Sla…

> This is an excellent reminder of the danger of being locked into closed systems. Do you honestly think a self managed solution or open source solution would be more reliable for most companies?

Not at all, I think closed private systems are far better (better products, support, service) but when an entire company runs its operations on a single system like Slack, there is a big risk when it goes away and you need contingency.

I’d still rather be on Slack and suffer a day of lost productivity than force people to use only email or IRC.

Re: Slack is down

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Post by thereare5lights »

bananabreakfast wrote: post #579
fhrifjr wrote: post #544

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Like Guantanamo Bay or prosecution of Assange for his journalistic work to expose wrongdoing of government? Or maybe you’re talking about for-profit prison system and mass incarceration practices? But you’re probably talking about China, right?

Once again, that is a false equivalence. No one imprisoned in Guantanamo Bay is a US Citizen and neither is Assange. The US prison system is super fucked up but it is not the same as ethnic cleansing. You are comparing apples to concentration camps.

> No one imprisoned in Guantanamo Bay is a US Citizen and neither is Assange.

That's a glib retort.

A takeaway from your position is that it's ok so long as you do it to citizens of other countries.

> it is not the same as ethnic cleansing.

See the above.

That's always been the difference between the US and China and why so many countries have hatred for us and yet little to none for China. They don't fuck with other countries on the level that we do.

Re: Slack is down

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Post by thereare5lights »

geocar wrote: post #621
bananabreakfast wrote: post #579

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Once again, that is a false equivalence. No one imprisoned in Guantanamo Bay is a US Citizen and neither is Assange. The US prison system is super fucked up but it is not the same as ethnic cleansing. You are comparing apples to concentration camps.

> No one imprisoned in Guantanamo Bay is a US Citizen and neither is Assange. I think you should I know I -- and probably others, are reading this as "b-b-but, they're not US Citizens, so they don't deserve [the same] rights" I hope that's not what you mean, because if it is, that's really fucked up.

That's exactly how I read it. And that's probably the same position of lots of Americans, which in and of itself is quite fucked up.

Re: Slack is down

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Post by trastknast »

daniellarusso wrote: post #467
ekianjo wrote: post #440

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Indeed, if you champion FOSS, why would you recommend a proprietary piece of software as fallback?

Maybe my DevOps folks should not be privy to all internal communications? That is one reason we did not go with Mattermost.

Slack won’t protect you from this as it’s possible for admins to export even private DMs.

https://www.nbcnews.com/better/business/slack-updates-privac...

Re: Slack is down

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Post by yabuttslivnwds »

xevrem wrote: post #580
dylan604 wrote: post #569

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is this an attempt to refute the claim using Zoom is bad, or an indictment against those still using it?

an indictment that so many people who should know better, still use a tainted and non-benign product.

Elaine Chao’s sister is married to Xi, while Elaine, as transportation secretary under Trump, was busted inviting family with business ties to the CCP to official US government meetings.

The fear on this forum is imagined political thriller more than realistic.

Every technologist is grifting off the military industrial complex.

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