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Re: Slack is down

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Post by Lammy » Mon, Jan 04, 2021, 6:33 PM UTC

tshaddox wrote: post #380

ARandomerDude wrote: post #281

> Customers may have trouble connecting or using Slack I can't stand how marketing speak pervades every sphere of the world. Their entire system is offline (inconvenient certainly, but it happens) and they can't bring themselves to say "Slack is down. We're working on it and will be back ASAP." or something similar. Instead we may have trouble.

Why do you consider that to be "marketing speak?" It appears to be concise, direct, and accurate. The phrase "Slack is down," even if true by some interpretations (it hasn't been "completely down" from what I have seen), is imprecise and informal.

To me it's mildly irksome in the same way as people who say "may or may not". Like, yes, those are the two possibilities, thank you.

Re: Slack is down

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Post by jmartens » Mon, Jan 04, 2021, 6:34 PM UTC

joana035 wrote: post #286

Lots of services quite red on https://downdetector.com

Unfortunately, Down Detector doesn't actually monitor these services, so we don't know if they are truly down. Down detector relies on human behavior, and we all know humans don't act rationally.

Re: Slack is down

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Post by MR4D » Mon, Jan 04, 2021, 6:35 PM UTC

joana035 wrote: post #286

Lots of services quite red on https://downdetector.com

Interesting that PG&E is on the list for power outage in SF.

Wonder if that's related?

https://downdetector.com/status/pge/

Re: Slack is down

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Post by dustymcp » Mon, Jan 04, 2021, 6:37 PM UTC

We got a discord server as a backup when teams is down, seems like it has gotten worse with days being down entirely, and we have to resort to discord voice which always seems to be up..

Re: Slack is down

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Post by xfalcox » Mon, Jan 04, 2021, 6:37 PM UTC

julianlam wrote: post #536

the_duke wrote: post #493

A great opportunity to try out Element, an open source client for the federated and open Matrix network [1]: https://element.io/ (edit: to clarify: not affiliated in any way, just a fan) [1] https://matrix.org/

I've found that element.io itself is really slow to load. That said, we're pushing up against the limits of our free plan with Slack and will likely deploy a matrix server in due course.

The good thing about that is that if you want a fast client there are quite a few native clients to pick.

https://matrix.org/clients/

For example, Mirage is Python/QT and quite fast in my experience. There are Rust clients, C++ clients, terminal based ones, etc.

Re: Slack is down

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Post by paulcarroty » Mon, Jan 04, 2021, 6:38 PM UTC

Good reason to try matrix or even setup a reserve (matrix) channel.

Re: Slack is down

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Post by djsumdog » Mon, Jan 04, 2021, 6:40 PM UTC

Xmax wrote: post #341

Surprisingly mobile client is working for me..!!

It's off an on. The connectivity is spotty.

Re: Slack is down

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Post by Reebz » Mon, Jan 04, 2021, 6:40 PM UTC

ARandomerDude wrote: post #281

> Customers may have trouble connecting or using Slack I can't stand how marketing speak pervades every sphere of the world. Their entire system is offline (inconvenient certainly, but it happens) and they can't bring themselves to say "Slack is down. We're working on it and will be back ASAP." or something similar. Instead we may have trouble.

Not marketing. That type of language comes from legal and the “never proactively admit fault“ mantra

Re: Slack is down

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Post by bananabreakfast » Mon, Jan 04, 2021, 6:41 PM UTC

fhrifjr wrote: post #544

xibalba wrote: post #524

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One nation is currently operating concentration camps and arrests and seizes the property of prominent citizens who criticize the government. Are you sure that's an equivalence you want to draw.

Like Guantanamo Bay or prosecution of Assange for his journalistic work to expose wrongdoing of government? Or maybe you’re talking about for-profit prison system and mass incarceration practices? But you’re probably talking about China, right?

Once again, that is a false equivalence.

No one imprisoned in Guantanamo Bay is a US Citizen and neither is Assange.

The US prison system is super fucked up but it is not the same as ethnic cleansing.

You are comparing apples to concentration camps.

Re: Slack is down

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Post by xevrem » Mon, Jan 04, 2021, 6:42 PM UTC

dylan604 wrote: post #569

Havoc wrote: post #519

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And yet a surprising number of firms with sensitive info continue to use it. Law firms etc

Is this an attempt to refute the claim using Zoom is bad, or an indictment against those still using it?

an indictment that so many people who should know better, still use a tainted and non-benign product.