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Re: Slack is down

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would bet it's just the influx of traffic post holiday with systems that haven't been updated in so long maybe some annoying memory leaks have crept up and gone unnoticed or some other bad state that was exacerbated by return to work day for most NA folks. Code freezes were good at identifying bugs that only show up after long periods. Doubt anyone releasing big changes Monday morning.

That might be true but when you take the global usage of Slack and their respective time zones, more than half the world would have signed into Slack this morning before SV had and I certainly didn't notice any downtime this morning in my time zone.

It was ropey before SV woke up, I thought it was just my (normally rock solid thanks to using Ubiquity) network having issues.

Guess it was Slack being Slack.

Re: Slack is down

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Other data points:

* iMessage was taking its sweet time sending a few texts this morning.

* I had momentary trouble trying to call a business from my Verizon phone, and someone I know had trouble calling from AT&T.

Could just be a coincidence, but I wonder if something larger-scale is happening.

Re: Slack is down

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These events seem to be happening almost on a monthly basis now. IRC was never this unreliable and at least with netsplits it was obvious what had happened because you'd see the clients disconnect. IME messages just fail to send with Slack, then you can retry but they're not properly idempotent and you end up sending the messages twice. It's really poor.

To be fair, IRC doesn't do a lot of things Slack does. Where is the logging and audit trails, access control, search, etc.

At least when irc goes down you can still access your logs

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When I was at Uber, we noticed that most incidents are directly caused by human actions that modify the state of the system. Therefore, a large "backlog" of human actions that modify the system state have a much higher chance of causing an incident. My bet is that this incident is caused by a big release after a post-holiday "code freeze".

Seems to be more than that. Even slack.com in an incognito browser fails.

What does an incognito browser have to do with anything?

Re: Slack is down

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post #89

When I was at Uber, we noticed that most incidents are directly caused by human actions that modify the state of the system. Therefore, a large "backlog" of human actions that modify the system state have a much higher chance of causing an incident. My bet is that this incident is caused by a big release after a post-holiday "code freeze".

To elaborate a bit more on this point, you have to think about it like any complex system failure - it's almost never one thing, but rather a combination of many different factors. The factors around post NYE releases: - high risk changes that weren't released pre-holidays get released. Depending on the company, this could mean a 1-week to 1-month delay between implementation and release. The greater that interval, t…

If new hires tends to break production, it's not in the first business day of the calendar year. December gets really quiet for recruiting, typically, as candidates get busy with their social lives, and scheduling interviews gets harder.

January is busy for recruiting, but given a week or two of interviewing and negotiating, two weeks notice, it's probably February before new employees are starting, and they're not making big, production-damaging deploys for a week or two after that.

Re: Slack is down

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post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To elaborate a bit more on this point, you have to think about it like any complex system failure - it's almost never one thing, but rather a combination of many different factors. The factors around post NYE releases: - high risk changes that weren't released pre-holidays get released. Depending on the company, this could mean a 1-week to 1-month delay between implementation and release. The greater that interval, t…

Sudden surge of traffic as all their users returns to work?

Could be, it's the perfect time overlap between US-West, US-East, and Europe.

Re: Slack is down

#147

Using our teams backup chatroom in a competing service. One of these days P2P Matrix will reach GA, then I plan to make a backup for my backups, Starfleet style.

That's one obscure reference, I love it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaPkSU8DNfY GILORA: Starfleet code requires a second backup? O'BRIEN: In case the first backup fails. GILORA: What are the chances that both a primary system and its backup would fail at the same time? O'BRIEN: It's very unlikely, but in a crunch I wouldn't like to be caught without a second backup.

Makes perfect sense for O'Brien, DS9 had serious backup issues in the first couple of years

The Forsaken (season 1 episode 17)

  LOJAL: I've been reading the reports of your Chief of Operations, Doctor. They gave me the impression that he was a competent engineer.
  BASHIR: Chief O'Brien? One of the best in Starfleet.
  LOJAL: Then why aren't the backup systems functioning?
  BASHIR: Well, you know, out here on the edge of the frontier, it's one adventure after another. Why don't I escort you back to your quarters where I'm sure we can all wait this out. 

Rivals (season 2 episode 11)

  KIRA: My terminal just self-destructed.
  DAX: What?
  KIRA: I lost an evaluation report I've been working on for weeks.
  DAX: Even the backups?
  KIRA: Even the backups. 

There's a reason to have a backup to the backup by Destiny (season 3 episode 15)

Re: Slack is down

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post #144
post #138

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seems to be more than that. Even slack.com in an incognito browser fails.

What does an incognito browser have to do with anything?

It means that one is not sending a session cookie of any kind, thus should be sent to a 100% cached version. No "Are you XYZ and what to log into ABC's Slack again?" box.

Re: Slack is down

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post #144
post #138

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seems to be more than that. Even slack.com in an incognito browser fails.

What does an incognito browser have to do with anything?

non-logged in user may not go through all the same codepaths as a user with cookies present.
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