oh good, it's not just me and my already bad first day of the year... is it too early to start drinking?
no
Slack is down
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Re: Slack is down
#72Duplicate of https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25632048 I think HN is hiding these posts. Maybe status threads are discouraged now? But they're much more useful than status.slack.com etc.
> Maybe status threads are discouraged now They always have been, since they clearly don't fit the guidelines for what a good submission is and usually leave little for interesting discussions. (unlike postmortems of past outages, which often are good)
Yet they are usually incredibly useful for most people here. They should be allowed at least while the event is ongoing.
Re: Slack is down
#73Earlier quoted context omitted.
> But migrating everything is _so painful_ This is a key point is the popularity amongst VCs in investing in B2B SaaS. I take their (and your) word for it. But honestly, I don't actually understand this. Why is migration so hard?
>Why is migration so hard? Why would anyone make it easy
I think there should be a new computer science law (if this one doesn't exist already):
Things that are easy to migrate from get replaced by things that are hard to migrate from, eventually.
IRC is incredibly easy to migrate from.
Re: Slack is down
#74Maybe we can chat with coworkers here. Is there a Carl around?
I'm a Carl. I'm also looking for a coworker who was trying to contact me. If it's about last saturday, I promise nothing really happened between me and her, but I'm sure she already told you.
Do you guys not have e-mail?
looks through Inbox of 850 new aws, batch job and logging messages
oh yea, that's right..
Re: Slack is down
#75Could it be the obvious? Everyone signing on / loading slack clients at the same time?
Nice of you to ignore the majority of the world's population who have been up and working long before America woke up.
Relax. GP is clearly referring to an increase in people signing on do to the holidays ending and everyone coming back from work.
Also, Slack has significantly more users in the US than in any other country[1], and it really isn't even close. So the offense you're taking is unwarranted anyway.
Re: Slack is down
#76Earlier quoted context omitted.
To be fair, IRC doesn't do a lot of things Slack does. Where is the logging and audit trails, access control, search, etc.
I'm still dreaming of a world where everyone uses IRC through an interface identical to Slack or Discord or whatever, and features like these are implemented.
Not really a fan of the Slack or Discord user interface myself, but there are modern looking web clients for IRC such as thelounge[0] or kiwiirc[1] that might be what you are after.
Re: Slack is down
#77How many more outages until all trust is eroded and competing services differentiate themselves on the basis of uptime?
I say this every time Slack is down, but they just seem so shady to me. Nobody can connect right now, and their status site says "100% uptime in the last quarter". Maybe it's close to 100%, but it ain't 100%. I think we should push for a metric where "up" means 100% of people that want to use the service are able to use the service. If 1% of users can't send messages, then that should count as a full-blown outage and…
You'll just end up with no SLA or pay a hefty amount to use services because that's an impossible standard to support for any service of a size like this.
Re: Slack is down
#78These events seem to be happening almost on a monthly basis now. IRC was never this unreliable and at least with netsplits it was obvious what had happened because you'd see the clients disconnect. IME messages just fail to send with Slack, then you can retry but they're not properly idempotent and you end up sending the messages twice. It's really poor.
My feeling is this is an AWS issue. Our services hosted in AWS are not working either.
Do you have more info like services, regions etc? I see all green checks on the AWS Status page.
Re: Slack is down
#79How many more outages until all trust is eroded and competing services differentiate themselves on the basis of uptime?
I wouldn't be shocked if businesses saw increased productivity during these.
If you use slack primarily as a water cooler then yes.
However, I drive everything through slack - GitHub, linear, calendars, Notion, support emails, etc. I have notifications turned off for every service we use except for slack. This allows me to effectively ignore everything except for slack. These types of outages destroy that workflow for me.
Re: Slack is down
#80It’s pretty embarrassing for their 45 minute update to be “not sure what’s wrong!”