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A group of Google workers have announced plans to unionize

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I don't disagree with this effort, but I'm a little surprised it wasn't one of the slightly more abusive/hardline of the FAANGM (that is, specifically Apple or Amazon, or perhaps Microsoft) staff first.

Part of that abusiveness likely extends to union busting efforts.

Amazon anti-union video: https://youtu.be/AQeGBHxIyHw

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I have an ugly truth for Google employees, unions don't mean anything, in NYC if you are in a union or married to a union employee you will eventually become a victim of targeted harassment campaigns by people with connections to government when they want you out of your job or spending money. Almost all unions or stable jobs have people who believe they "control" the jobs. They will attempt to destroy you and your f…

I mean this in the kindest possible way: have you consulted a psychiatrist? Feeling like you are being persecuted by shadowy, all-powerful enemies is a common symptom of schizophrenia.

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Perhaps App store publishers can unionize too. For example, instead of having small companies publishing apps themselves, they can have an organization do it for them, so it's big organization versus BigCorp, instead of little guy versus BigCorp. Also, it could provide some more transparency of the App Store sales.

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> If the union effort at Google is successful, members say they will commit one percent of their annual compensation to the union. Is that a standard rate for union dues? I’ve never joined a union myself in the past and have no reference point for a 1% figure.

Don't know about the US, but 1% is the standard in Germany. (Unions here work a bit different, they are not per-company but nationwide and you get a couple of benefits like legal insurance etc.)

US unions are not typically per-company either.

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Perhaps App store publishers can unionize too. For example, instead of having small companies publishing apps themselves, they can have an organization do it for them, so it's big organization versus BigCorp, instead of little guy versus BigCorp. Also, it could provide some more transparency of the App Store sales.

Is there precedent for a group of unrelated individuals who happen to be in the same industry ‘unionizing’ ?

Edit: answer of course is guilds, thanks commenters :) The word union threw me off. One could totally imagine an ‘app developers guild’ to help defend against the big guys. Go start one!

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I have an ugly truth for Google employees, unions don't mean anything, in NYC if you are in a union or married to a union employee you will eventually become a victim of targeted harassment campaigns by people with connections to government when they want you out of your job or spending money. Almost all unions or stable jobs have people who believe they "control" the jobs. They will attempt to destroy you and your f…

I mean this in the kindest possible way: have you consulted a psychiatrist? Feeling like you are being persecuted by shadowy, all-powerful enemies is a common symptom of schizophrenia.

The assumption that they would have to be hallucinating to be recounting a standard tale of union intimidation is very funny. That's what a union is for: thugging on people. You have to have soft hands to believe anything else.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean this in the kindest possible way: have you consulted a psychiatrist? Feeling like you are being persecuted by shadowy, all-powerful enemies is a common symptom of schizophrenia.

The assumption that they would have to be hallucinating to be recounting a standard tale of union intimidation is very funny. That's what a union is for: thugging on people. You have to have soft hands to believe anything else.

Isn't that tale the reverse of that - i.e. a tale of intimidating union members?

I find it hard to believe stuff like this would fly in a major city of a western country in 21st century, even in the United States. Though I can't honestly discount it completely either...

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I have an ugly truth for Google employees, unions don't mean anything, in NYC if you are in a union or married to a union employee you will eventually become a victim of targeted harassment campaigns by people with connections to government when they want you out of your job or spending money. Almost all unions or stable jobs have people who believe they "control" the jobs. They will attempt to destroy you and your f…

I mean this in the kindest possible way: have you consulted a psychiatrist? Feeling like you are being persecuted by shadowy, all-powerful enemies is a common symptom of schizophrenia.

No psychiatrist necessary (PROOF):

https://twitter.com/psaintlaurent0/status/132951417338719028...

https://twitter.com/psaintlaurent0/status/134244904875058380...

https://twitter.com/psaintlaurent0/status/132883496079975628...

https://twitter.com/psaintlaurent0/status/131211998307427942...

https://twitter.com/psaintlaurent0/status/125889480453833932...

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Perhaps App store publishers can unionize too. For example, instead of having small companies publishing apps themselves, they can have an organization do it for them, so it's big organization versus BigCorp, instead of little guy versus BigCorp. Also, it could provide some more transparency of the App Store sales.

Is there precedent for a group of unrelated individuals who happen to be in the same industry ‘unionizing’ ? Edit: answer of course is guilds, thanks commenters :) The word union threw me off. One could totally imagine an ‘app developers guild’ to help defend against the big guys. Go start one!

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