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Re: URL shorteners set ad tracking cookies

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More than you'd think, not as many as I'd hope. Easily 2/3rds of the ones I visit work, FWIW. Google works fine without javascript. Stunningly fast.

> Google works fine without javascript. Stunningly fast. Until they block you for "suspicious behavior" after a few minutes of using it like that.

Genuine question- has that happened to you?

Re: URL shorteners set ad tracking cookies

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>I honestly didn't think anyone browsed the web without javascript enabled. How common is that? Not the person you asked, but speaking for myself, all the time. I have a javascript toggle I use several times a day, and leave it set to off as much as I can.

Would you mind offering a bit more detail about the "toggle"? Which browser, what's the name of the extension, etc. I would love something like that but don't really want to go through the effort of setting up a whitelist right now.

Sure thing, I'll edit this reply with the extension in question when I get home. Won't be very long.

[edit] The extension is called Quick Javascript Switcher. https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/quick-javascript-s...

It works as advertised for being a Javascript toggle.

Re: URL shorteners set ad tracking cookies

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> Aren't ALL websites ultimately advertisements? No. Some are just information, art, or what-have-you. Here's one I just found now. https://aaron.axvigs.com/

That could still be considered an advertisement of his existence and writing skills. If the goal is purely informational, why is the author's name attached? The site also advertises the CMS it runs on. That's my point, by a reasonable standard, ANY site that exists is an advertisement for something or other, thus a rule saying "no linking to advertisements" is worse than useless.

This must be the mindset it takes to work in the ad tech industry.

Ads are sort of like porn. There are lots of things you certainly know serve no other purpose than to advertise something and you can block them outright. Native advertising is certainly difficult though.

Re: URL shorteners set ad tracking cookies

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>I honestly didn't think anyone browsed the web without javascript enabled. How common is that? Not the person you asked, but speaking for myself, all the time. I have a javascript toggle I use several times a day, and leave it set to off as much as I can.

Would you mind offering a bit more detail about the "toggle"? Which browser, what's the name of the extension, etc. I would love something like that but don't really want to go through the effort of setting up a whitelist right now.

Not the person you asked, but, NoScript is a choice. uBlock Origin as well with the right settings. Should be on Chrome or Firefox. On mobile, only the latter I think. Kiwi too?

Re: URL shorteners set ad tracking cookies

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That could still be considered an advertisement of his existence and writing skills. If the goal is purely informational, why is the author's name attached? The site also advertises the CMS it runs on. That's my point, by a reasonable standard, ANY site that exists is an advertisement for something or other, thus a rule saying "no linking to advertisements" is worse than useless.

This must be the mindset it takes to work in the ad tech industry. Ads are sort of like porn. There are lots of things you certainly know serve no other purpose than to advertise something and you can block them outright. Native advertising is certainly difficult though.

Do not work, nor I have I ever worked, in ad tech.

Re: URL shorteners set ad tracking cookies

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post #108

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> Google works fine without javascript. Stunningly fast. Until they block you for "suspicious behavior" after a few minutes of using it like that.

Genuine question- has that happened to you?

Yes! It also happens when I am not logged in, or use a VPN (though that is understandable).

But simply disabling javascript and clicking next a few times is usually enough to set off their blockages. Even when not using a VPN. It happens less if you only ever look at the first page.

Re: URL shorteners set ad tracking cookies

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Genuine question- has that happened to you?

Yes! It also happens when I am not logged in, or use a VPN (though that is understandable). But simply disabling javascript and clicking next a few times is usually enough to set off their blockages. Even when not using a VPN. It happens less if you only ever look at the first page.

Interesting! Thanks for responding. I haven't had that happen to me yet, but I'm often using the same static IP I've had for years. Perhaps that keeps the trigger at bay.

Re: URL shorteners set ad tracking cookies

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Sorry about that. I honestly didn't think anyone browsed the web without javascript enabled. How common is that? We do offer a simple to use api that you could build on top of to shorten link. Also an extension that offers the ability to shorten a url in one click. API Docs: https://t.ly/docs/ Extension: https://t.ly/extension

I use u-block origin on "medium" mode where you have it block 3rd party javascript by default and it behaves the same. Unblocking the cloudflare originating javascript fixes it. I'd guess my setup is more common than having javascript disabled entirely. Not a complaint, just another data point.

Is there some reason you want to block cloudflare JS? If not, wouldn't it be easier to add an exception to uBlock rather than try to get devs to change their site for you?
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