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Re: URL shorteners set ad tracking cookies

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Although "Oh By"[1] is not strictly a URL shortener it can be used as one quite nicely.

When used as a URL shortener, there are no cookies, no tracking, and ublock origin shows a nice big zero throughout. This is because the revenue model of Oh By is selling custom/vanity codes - not monetizing user data or advertising.

"If you're looking for a dead-simple URL shortener that respects your privacy and doesn't slow you down with ads or multi-megabyte interstitial pages, Oh By might be for you."[2]

[1] https://0x.co

[2] https://0x.co/faq.html

Re: URL shorteners set ad tracking cookies

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Not all URL shorteners do that. I know because I own and maintain one that doesn't.

Hopefully yours is only available on a company LAN or other private network. Public link shorteners are a linkrot disaster, particularly the myriad of shorteners being run by random dudes for shits and giggles, since those disappear as soon as they get bored. There is nothing more frustrating than having a dead shortened link for content that is likely still available if only you had the real URL, not the shortened garbage. Link shorteners are a form of pollution; you may as well pour used motor oil down a gutter.

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Eh, for links to content on my website I just cooked up my own URL shortener using Apache rewrite maps and a little scripting to generate the short codes. Simple, private, and entirely under my control (which also means I don't have to worry about the links breaking).

Re: URL shorteners set ad tracking cookies

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post #3

Not all URL shorteners do that. I know because I own and maintain one that doesn't.

Hopefully yours is only available on a company LAN or other private network. Public link shorteners are a linkrot disaster, particularly the myriad of shorteners being run by random dudes for shits and giggles, since those disappear as soon as they get bored. There is nothing more frustrating than having a dead shortened link for content that is likely still available if only you had the real URL, not the shortened g…

No, it's public and has been run for 11 years already and will continue to do so in foreseeable future. I would say it is the most popular one in my home country and it has good reputation among users. From my experience most linkrot issues comes from the fact that sites and documents URL shorteners link to go down before URL shorteners themselves. Many websites from 11 years ago doesn't exist anymore.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hopefully yours is only available on a company LAN or other private network. Public link shorteners are a linkrot disaster, particularly the myriad of shorteners being run by random dudes for shits and giggles, since those disappear as soon as they get bored. There is nothing more frustrating than having a dead shortened link for content that is likely still available if only you had the real URL, not the shortened g…

No, it's public and has been run for 11 years already and will continue to do so in foreseeable future. I would say it is the most popular one in my home country and it has good reputation among users. From my experience most linkrot issues comes from the fact that sites and documents URL shorteners link to go down before URL shorteners themselves. Many websites from 11 years ago doesn't exist anymore.

Will you die, will your heirs continue to operate this service? Or do consequences beyond your life not concern you? (e.g. "Why should I care about climate change, I'll be dead before it gets bad!")

To mitigate the harm you've already caused, you should put the service into a read-only mode and contact Archive Team about handing off the database. You should do this today, before you get hit by a bus.

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post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hopefully yours is only available on a company LAN or other private network. Public link shorteners are a linkrot disaster, particularly the myriad of shorteners being run by random dudes for shits and giggles, since those disappear as soon as they get bored. There is nothing more frustrating than having a dead shortened link for content that is likely still available if only you had the real URL, not the shortened g…

No, it's public and has been run for 11 years already and will continue to do so in foreseeable future. I would say it is the most popular one in my home country and it has good reputation among users. From my experience most linkrot issues comes from the fact that sites and documents URL shorteners link to go down before URL shorteners themselves. Many websites from 11 years ago doesn't exist anymore.

Do you have some form of information escrow in place? E.g. could archive.org store a page of all your short-url mappings?

Re: URL shorteners set ad tracking cookies

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, it's public and has been run for 11 years already and will continue to do so in foreseeable future. I would say it is the most popular one in my home country and it has good reputation among users. From my experience most linkrot issues comes from the fact that sites and documents URL shorteners link to go down before URL shorteners themselves. Many websites from 11 years ago doesn't exist anymore.

Will you die, will your heirs continue to operate this service? Or do consequences beyond your life not concern you? (e.g. "Why should I care about climate change, I'll be dead before it gets bad!" ) To mitigate the harm you've already caused, you should put the service into a read-only mode and contact Archive Team about handing off the database. You should do this today, before you get hit by a bus.

What harm have they "already caused"?

Is link rot such a damaging phenomenon that it warrants attacking hobbyists and their not-for-profit public service?

Will you help financially compensate their time setting up these fail-safes?

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Although "Oh By"[1] is not strictly a URL shortener it can be used as one quite nicely. When used as a URL shortener, there are no cookies, no tracking, and ublock origin shows a nice big zero throughout. This is because the revenue model of Oh By is selling custom/vanity codes - not monetizing user data or advertising. "If you're looking for a dead-simple URL shortener that respects your privacy and doesn't slow you…

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