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How to overcome Phone Addiction

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Re: How to overcome Phone Addiction

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I basically discourage addiction by making things “difficult” for myself on my phone: - Minimal web bookmarks (i.e. I have to type in most web sites I want to visit; this is just enough of an encumbrance that I won’t flip open things like Reddit every 30 seconds). - I never install apps meant for content consumption, I use their web sites. (This is usually a better experience anyway, since the vast majority of them a…

No notifications on the lock screen is also one that I use.

Re: How to overcome Phone Addiction

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Some ideas on this topic:

1. Inconvenience based solutions don't address the problem: using apps to restrict phone use, physically hiding the phone etc. Once you leave those carefully constrained conditions, you are more vulnerable than ever. Not to mention the contradiction with the core issue that it's a symptom rather than a cause.

2. Turning abstinence as an ongoing status condition (e.g. "X days since I did Y") is a trap. It sets you up for later failure by burdening you with a perpetually unfinished objective with psychological consequences that only increase as the 'highscore' increases. This could work with things that are less easily accessible like heroin, but it's not going to work with something as easily accessible as a phone or computer.

3. The solution that works with 1 and 2 is probably urge surfing as it tackles the issue directly

4. It's easier to think of it as an addiction to browsing rather than an addiction to the phone itself. You have to catch yourself during any browsing moment in any context to eventually make progress. Be intentional in almost every action instead of going on auto-pilot, although obviously resting at the end of the day is fine. It's more a general philosophy than a hard rule meant to exhaust you.

5. The eventual goal is a rich life where you no longer feel the need to distract yourself

Re: How to overcome Phone Addiction

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post #46

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> " Brave New World predicted this. We are removed from community and it is scary so we find one on the internet and we go all in. " That isn't how I remember Brave New World; it was about amusing ourselves to death with trivia instead of dealing with "important" things, but the sense of community in it was pretty strong - people grew up with and lived with the same local group of people, worked together, played Cent…

> their America doesn't include murdering thy neighbor. They might "want to kill each other" Well, you can find a lot of message boards in which they fantasize about doing this. And it sells a lot of weapons. But the energy barrier is high; people like Kyle Rittenhouse cross it only rarely enough that they can be dismissed as isolated incidents. It's not every day that someone blows up a telephone exchange. Just anot…

> people like Kyle Rittenhouse

Don't forget the people that shot at him and tried to stomp his head in.

Re: How to overcome Phone Addiction

#114

I basically discourage addiction by making things “difficult” for myself on my phone: - Minimal web bookmarks (i.e. I have to type in most web sites I want to visit; this is just enough of an encumbrance that I won’t flip open things like Reddit every 30 seconds). - I never install apps meant for content consumption, I use their web sites. (This is usually a better experience anyway, since the vast majority of them a…

I do a bunch of this stuff, too. Notifications are a big one and I highly encourage people to be ruthless in disabling them. There is no use case for receiving an instant notification when somebody happens to mention you on social media that won’t make your life worse.

One quibble: I also uninstalled most apps, but there isn’t a single one of them with a mobile website that’s better. It really is a far worse experience to have to use the website.

Re: How to overcome Phone Addiction

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I use my DNS blocker pi-hole to help with this. Whenever I find myself getting hooked into a website, it just gets blacklisted network-wide. One example I've done this with is Reddit. The majority of the Reddit community is really off-putting to me, but the endless content feeds my ADHD like nothing else.

Re: How to overcome Phone Addiction

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I basically discourage addiction by making things “difficult” for myself on my phone: - Minimal web bookmarks (i.e. I have to type in most web sites I want to visit; this is just enough of an encumbrance that I won’t flip open things like Reddit every 30 seconds). - I never install apps meant for content consumption, I use their web sites. (This is usually a better experience anyway, since the vast majority of them a…

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Re: How to overcome Phone Addiction

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I agree except some things are actually addicting. Phones are dopamine slot machines that fit in your pocket so that you can't escape. I think it's both. People seek an escape and phone apps are extremely addicting.

Is it bad to feel rewarded for legitimately engaging your brain? Is it bad for something to be a "dopamine slot machine" if it's only because it actually allows you to consume knowledge more rapidly/efficiently?

I don't think I've ever acquired deep knowledge or insight via my phone. It's all shallow junk food.

Re: How to overcome Phone Addiction

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post #112

Some ideas on this topic: 1. Inconvenience based solutions don't address the problem: using apps to restrict phone use, physically hiding the phone etc. Once you leave those carefully constrained conditions, you are more vulnerable than ever. Not to mention the contradiction with the core issue that it's a symptom rather than a cause. 2. Turning abstinence as an ongoing status condition (e.g. "X days since I did Y")…

#4 is so on the money. Well put.

Re: How to overcome Phone Addiction

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> Marines do have an answer, although with a great cost. Do you mean an individual cost or societal cost? I think one of the ironies about the human condition is that we value things that we’ve sacrificed toward much more than the things we have not. E.g., Marines have esprit de corps in part because of their sacrifices not despite them. The strongest connections are often made through hardship. To think we can have…

The marines come with an individual cost that is frequently less valued than service in the army or airforce.

What do you mean less valued? My impression is that the Marines are the most respected of the services. (I am not serving nor a veteran of any armed service).

Re: How to overcome Phone Addiction

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Is having a second phone number and telling people when to contact you using it really easier than just... not looking at your primary phone?

Not specially hard. And you're comparing different stuff. I'm not using a different phone because it's easier, but because having a smartphone is distracting. It's noticeable, but in case you need a link. https://www.sacurrent.com/the-daily/archives/2017/06/28/just...

Incredible — the effect was present even when the phone was turned off. I would think that a phone that is off but nearby would be less of a distraction than a phone that is on but in the next room. It would take longer for me to turn on my phone than walk to the next room to get it.
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