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Re: How to overcome Phone Addiction

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I am really curious if this is markedly different from concerns people had about children wasting their time away reading books, as seen in Don Quijote for example.

No - very similar.

https://slate.com/technology/2017/08/the-19th-century-moral-...

Re: How to overcome Phone Addiction

#93
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not really true. If two things are strictly correlative, that means there is an additional factor causing both. If you eliminate all reasonable additional factors (by controlling variables), you can demonstrate causation. Arguing that there can be unknowable external factors behind everything is not very scientific. Identifying causal relationships involving humans is difficult due to the excessively multivariate nat…

Leibniz denies the existence of causation in his Monadology[1]. In short, everything acts solely according to its own nature without any interaction with anything else, but in a harmonious way that creates the illusion of causation. That strikes me as a bit far fetched, but it does show that accepting the existence of causation is a metaphysical choice and not necessary. [1] https://plato-philosophy.org/wp-content/up…

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Re: How to overcome Phone Addiction

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> Your online and offline behavior gets more integrated and you don’t know what you did in the digital reality or the material reality. Not sure if it's just me, but this is getting very hard to separate during quarantine. I often remember conversations that happened over text as having happened in person. Perhaps my mind is accounting for the lack of face-to-face interaction.

Definitely not just you.

Re: How to overcome Phone Addiction

#95

What a terrible thing to be addicted to... it's a small box that spies on you and gives you almost nothing in return. I cancelled my cell phone service 8 years ago and it was the best thing I've ever done for myself.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say less terrible than being addicted to alcohol, meth, crack or heroin. Less dangerous than cigarettes so probably less terrible than a smoking habit too. Probably less damaging financially than a gambling addiction unless you are blowing a shit ton of money on in app purchases.

What things can you be addicted to are LESS terrible than being addicted to your phone?

Re: How to overcome Phone Addiction

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post #51

Given this is Hacker News, I await the solution of LSD-assisted therapy to counter phone addiction to be proposed soon.

Lol I'm not proposing an LSD-based solution, but I do have a relevant anecdote from my first trip. We were on the beach sitting on blankets, and my phone somehow got lost in the folds of the blanket while I was coming up. For the next ~4 hours I basically forgot "who" I was, being deprived of a phone that constantly shows me my friends, notes, and pictures. Eventually, I did find my phone and it was the weirdest expe…

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Re: How to overcome Phone Addiction

#97
post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not really true. If two things are strictly correlative, that means there is an additional factor causing both. If you eliminate all reasonable additional factors (by controlling variables), you can demonstrate causation. Arguing that there can be unknowable external factors behind everything is not very scientific. Identifying causal relationships involving humans is difficult due to the excessively multivariate nat…

Leibniz denies the existence of causation in his Monadology[1]. In short, everything acts solely according to its own nature without any interaction with anything else, but in a harmonious way that creates the illusion of causation. That strikes me as a bit far fetched, but it does show that accepting the existence of causation is a metaphysical choice and not necessary. [1] https://plato-philosophy.org/wp-content/up…

> Leibniz denies the existence of causation in his Monadology

This sentence is incoherent unless one assumes the denial of causation is bunk, since it makes no sense to attribute either Monadology in general or the specific claims from it being discussed to Leibniz unless he caused the existence of the work, which clearly he cannot have if there is no causation.

Re: How to overcome Phone Addiction

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>The problem is that people under the age of 40 or so don't communicate via phone calls in the first instance. Where on Earth are you getting this information? You've made an unsupported claim that I was able to debunk by talking to the four tables around me. What's your source for "people under the age of 40 or so don't communicate via phone calls?"

That's not debunking ...

>That's not debunking ...

That was the point.

Re: How to overcome Phone Addiction

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post #51

Given this is Hacker News, I await the solution of LSD-assisted therapy to counter phone addiction to be proposed soon.

Please invest in my new startup - we provide an app that recommends LSD microdoses to address your milliphone exposure count.

Tomorrow on Ask HN:

Which PAAS (psychedelic-as-a-service) would you pay the most money for?

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