How to overcome Phone Addiction • Hacker News Board

Re: How to overcome Phone Addiction

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Post by GuB-42 » Sat, Jan 02, 2021, 11:15 PM UTC

Phone addiction is linked to so many problems because phones are used for so many things.

Exemplified by the following quote from the article "5. Inability to feel pleasure and excitement in the offline world but excessive emotions are tied to online rewards like gambling, likes, shares, followers, sexting, masturbation to porn, etc."

The phone itself is like a gun to a soldier, a force multiplier. By itself, it does nothing, give it to a friendly soldier and he will become more effective, give it to the enemy and he will become more dangerous.

Re: How to overcome Phone Addiction

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Post by shawnz » Sat, Jan 02, 2021, 11:15 PM UTC

2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote: post #24

launderthis wrote: post #9

correlation does not equal causation. Phone addiction or internet addiction is a symptom not a cause. People are escaping to the internet becuase of the world we live in is cold. There is a new US marine commerical out that shows a kid wandering the street kind of lost in hyper interactive world. The commercial plays off of this internet addiction and data mining product selling. Then clips to them becoming a Marine…

I agree except some things are actually addicting. Phones are dopamine slot machines that fit in your pocket so that you can't escape. I think it's both. People seek an escape and phone apps are extremely addicting.

Is it bad to feel rewarded for legitimately engaging your brain?

Is it bad for something to be a "dopamine slot machine" if it's only because it actually allows you to consume knowledge more rapidly/efficiently?

Re: How to overcome Phone Addiction

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Post by furstenheim » Sat, Jan 02, 2021, 11:16 PM UTC

chrisseaton wrote: post #62

Nicksil wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>The problem is that people under the age of 40 or so don't communicate via phone calls in the first instance. Where on Earth are you getting this information? You've made an unsupported claim that I was able to debunk by talking to the four tables around me. What's your source for "people under the age of 40 or so don't communicate via phone calls?"

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/aug/26/whatsa... https://www.forbes.com/sites/briannawiest/2019/11/04/millenn... https://bgr.com/2018/12/09/millennials-phone-calls-survey/ https://www.telegraph.co.uk/family/mobile-chat/why-millennia... https://www.inc.com/john-brandon/why-millennials-dont-like-t... https://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/nz-life-leisure/110277251... https://jeffjbutler.com/2019/04/02/why-mi…

It's different calling someone out of the blue, than calling someone you're meeting in 30 minutes.

Re: How to overcome Phone Addiction

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Post by 29athrowaway » Sat, Jan 02, 2021, 11:17 PM UTC

Re: How to overcome Phone Addiction

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Post by gputhrowaway630 » Sat, Jan 02, 2021, 11:18 PM UTC

bjt2n3904 wrote: post #61

Noos wrote: post #51

Given this is Hacker News, I await the solution of LSD-assisted therapy to counter phone addiction to be proposed soon.

It was on the front page earlier today, and still is. Why bother stopping a bad habit? That takes effort. Much better to play Russian Roulette with mind altering substances.

The other discussion is about using psilocybin to treat depression, not phone addiction. They are different disorders and should be treated as such.

Re: How to overcome Phone Addiction

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Post by dopylitty » Sat, Jan 02, 2021, 11:18 PM UTC

makecheck wrote: post #74

I basically discourage addiction by making things “difficult” for myself on my phone: - Minimal web bookmarks (i.e. I have to type in most web sites I want to visit; this is just enough of an encumbrance that I won’t flip open things like Reddit every 30 seconds). - I never install apps meant for content consumption, I use their web sites. (This is usually a better experience anyway, since the vast majority of them a…

I did the bookmark thing too and all I found out is that it’s a bitch to spell yxombinatoe on an iPhone keyboard.

Re: How to overcome Phone Addiction

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Post by thatcat » Sat, Jan 02, 2021, 11:19 PM UTC

KhoomeiK wrote: post #77

Noos wrote: post #51

Given this is Hacker News, I await the solution of LSD-assisted therapy to counter phone addiction to be proposed soon.

Lol I'm not proposing an LSD-based solution, but I do have a relevant anecdote from my first trip. We were on the beach sitting on blankets, and my phone somehow got lost in the folds of the blanket while I was coming up. For the next ~4 hours I basically forgot "who" I was, being deprived of a phone that constantly shows me my friends, notes, and pictures. Eventually, I did find my phone and it was the weirdest expe…

That's a pretty good short story plot.

Re: How to overcome Phone Addiction

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Post by Ensorceled » Sat, Jan 02, 2021, 11:20 PM UTC

Nicksil wrote: post #59

chrisseaton wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem is that people under the age of 40 or so don't communicate via phone calls in the first instance. So a phone is not a means to communicate with them and you don't avoid any possible communication issues. Your lunch meeting is telling you on Slack that they're going to be late. You think you have no 'possible communication issues' but you're mistaken.

>The problem is that people under the age of 40 or so don't communicate via phone calls in the first instance. Where on Earth are you getting this information? You've made an unsupported claim that I was able to debunk by talking to the four tables around me. What's your source for "people under the age of 40 or so don't communicate via phone calls?"

That's not debunking ...

Re: How to overcome Phone Addiction

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Post by bumby » Sat, Jan 02, 2021, 11:21 PM UTC

bjt2n3904 wrote: post #61

Noos wrote: post #51

Given this is Hacker News, I await the solution of LSD-assisted therapy to counter phone addiction to be proposed soon.

It was on the front page earlier today, and still is. Why bother stopping a bad habit? That takes effort. Much better to play Russian Roulette with mind altering substances.

While you make a good point, I think the therapeutic dose to LD50 ratio of mushrooms is vanishingly small, meaning they are relatively safe

(Assuming you are referring to the article about mushrooms)

Re: How to overcome Phone Addiction

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Post by makecheck » Sat, Jan 02, 2021, 11:21 PM UTC

dopylitty wrote: post #86

makecheck wrote: post #74

I basically discourage addiction by making things “difficult” for myself on my phone: - Minimal web bookmarks (i.e. I have to type in most web sites I want to visit; this is just enough of an encumbrance that I won’t flip open things like Reddit every 30 seconds). - I never install apps meant for content consumption, I use their web sites. (This is usually a better experience anyway, since the vast majority of them a…

I did the bookmark thing too and all I found out is that it’s a bitch to spell yxombinatoe on an iPhone keyboard.

Yeah this site is one of my only bookmarks. :)