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How to overcome Phone Addiction

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Re: How to overcome Phone Addiction

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correlation does not equal causation. Phone addiction or internet addiction is a symptom not a cause. People are escaping to the internet becuase of the world we live in is cold. There is a new US marine commerical out that shows a kid wandering the street kind of lost in hyper interactive world. The commercial plays off of this internet addiction and data mining product selling. Then clips to them becoming a Marine…

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Re: How to overcome Phone Addiction

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post #23

correlation does not equal causation. Phone addiction or internet addiction is a symptom not a cause. People are escaping to the internet becuase of the world we live in is cold. There is a new US marine commerical out that shows a kid wandering the street kind of lost in hyper interactive world. The commercial plays off of this internet addiction and data mining product selling. Then clips to them becoming a Marine…

> Phone addiction or internet addiction is a symptom not a cause Correlation does not imply causation, but that doesn't mean that it can't be causation.

It's not even that they're asserting that there's no causation in that quote, they're rather asserting that the causation is backwards, which is also undemonstrated.

Re: How to overcome Phone Addiction

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post #21

correlation does not equal causation. Phone addiction or internet addiction is a symptom not a cause. People are escaping to the internet becuase of the world we live in is cold. There is a new US marine commerical out that shows a kid wandering the street kind of lost in hyper interactive world. The commercial plays off of this internet addiction and data mining product selling. Then clips to them becoming a Marine…

> Its a good commercial because its actually something that is a problem and that the Marines do have an answer Perhaps we should bring back a year of mandatory military service. Or some other kind of mandatory community service.

We never HAD a year of mandatory military service to bring back

Re: How to overcome Phone Addiction

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post #13

Is it the phone people are addicted to, or the media available through it? Especially Facebook, Instagram, Whatsapp and Twitter. All of which seem designed to cultivate obsessive compulsive behavior in their users with social proof, intermittent rewards and a builtin hedonic treadmill.

We didn't have these issues back in the early 2000s. Cause of price and the average person didn't use a computer as often as they do now. That's because there was barely anything to soon them then.

I myself spent a lot of time on the computer back then, mostly playing computer games. And I remember how everyone talked about how addictive and bad computer games were.

Re: How to overcome Phone Addiction

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correlation does not equal causation. Phone addiction or internet addiction is a symptom not a cause. People are escaping to the internet becuase of the world we live in is cold. There is a new US marine commerical out that shows a kid wandering the street kind of lost in hyper interactive world. The commercial plays off of this internet addiction and data mining product selling. Then clips to them becoming a Marine…

> " Brave New World predicted this. We are removed from community and it is scary so we find one on the internet and we go all in. " That isn't how I remember Brave New World; it was about amusing ourselves to death with trivia instead of dealing with "important" things, but the sense of community in it was pretty strong - people grew up with and lived with the same local group of people, worked together, played Cent…

> their America doesn't include murdering thy neighbor. They might "want to kill each other"

Well, you can find a lot of message boards in which they fantasize about doing this. And it sells a lot of weapons. But the energy barrier is high; people like Kyle Rittenhouse cross it only rarely enough that they can be dismissed as isolated incidents. It's not every day that someone blows up a telephone exchange. Just another isolated incident.

Re: How to overcome Phone Addiction

#47

correlation does not equal causation. Phone addiction or internet addiction is a symptom not a cause. People are escaping to the internet becuase of the world we live in is cold. There is a new US marine commerical out that shows a kid wandering the street kind of lost in hyper interactive world. The commercial plays off of this internet addiction and data mining product selling. Then clips to them becoming a Marine…

>And that a Maga hat and Antifa supporter might be neighbors but want to kill eachother.

You seem to be ignoring the possibility that these people come to these ideologies because of the Internet, which leads to the hollowing-out of community coherence that you mention.

Re: How to overcome Phone Addiction

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correlation does not equal causation. Phone addiction or internet addiction is a symptom not a cause. People are escaping to the internet becuase of the world we live in is cold. There is a new US marine commerical out that shows a kid wandering the street kind of lost in hyper interactive world. The commercial plays off of this internet addiction and data mining product selling. Then clips to them becoming a Marine…

> a Maga hat and Antifa supporter might be neighbors but want to kill each other

There's even a dedicated reddit for this fallacy.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ENLIGHTENEDCENTRISM

Re: How to overcome Phone Addiction

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I find it easier to channel my internet use into creative, and productive outlets on my computer than on my phone.

I’ll second this. Here’s an anecdote from just this morning: I sat down at my desktop with my coffee. The first thing I did was fire up Unity and Visual Studio to continue some work on learning about networked multiplayer games. I spent about 2 hours reading API documentation and prototyping different things. I came away feeling like I had learned something and was making progress on a thing I care about. After that…

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Re: How to overcome Phone Addiction

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post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

well ok, but while we are on the subject, we have no proof of any causation anywhere in the universe, all we have is the correlation that we've never seen (for example) gravity repel, only attract.

Not really true. If two things are strictly correlative, that means there is an additional factor causing both. If you eliminate all reasonable additional factors (by controlling variables), you can demonstrate causation. Arguing that there can be unknowable external factors behind everything is not very scientific. Identifying causal relationships involving humans is difficult due to the excessively multivariate nat…

Leibniz denies the existence of causation in his Monadology[1]. In short, everything acts solely according to its own nature without any interaction with anything else, but in a harmonious way that creates the illusion of causation. That strikes me as a bit far fetched, but it does show that accepting the existence of causation is a metaphysical choice and not necessary.

[1] https://plato-philosophy.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/The-...

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