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Re: Open Source Smartwatch

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post #178

Does anybody actively use smartwatch? I remember I bought the first Google pay smartwatch Mobvi Ticwatch Pro. Used it once to pay for dinner and jogging a few times and found it to be not useful as I keep going back to my smartphone which I am not keen to carry while exercising. I'm hoping that Smartglasses won't be a flop but can't help but feel we are no in a plateau of really incremental innovations moving the scr…

I know somebody who got constant text messages from his pregnant wife, and the Apple Watch made it easy to read them and dismiss them.

I've also seen a DMV worker use the Apple Watch to distract himself with information every spare second he had in his interaction with me.

Re: Open Source Smartwatch

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post #178

Does anybody actively use smartwatch? I remember I bought the first Google pay smartwatch Mobvi Ticwatch Pro. Used it once to pay for dinner and jogging a few times and found it to be not useful as I keep going back to my smartphone which I am not keen to carry while exercising. I'm hoping that Smartglasses won't be a flop but can't help but feel we are no in a plateau of really incremental innovations moving the scr…

I like my Samsung unit.

I see SMS notifications and can even give a monosyllable response while the phone is stowed.

That's a close to the Full Dick Tracy as I get.

Re: Open Source Smartwatch

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I highly recommend the compatible Colmi P8 smartwatch with waspos https://github.com/daniel-thompson/wasp-os which enables you to write micropython with access to all device features. You can overwrite the stock firmware using bluetooth without having to open and solder wires.

Does it support notifications?

Re: Open Source Smartwatch

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post #178

Does anybody actively use smartwatch? I remember I bought the first Google pay smartwatch Mobvi Ticwatch Pro. Used it once to pay for dinner and jogging a few times and found it to be not useful as I keep going back to my smartphone which I am not keen to carry while exercising. I'm hoping that Smartglasses won't be a flop but can't help but feel we are no in a plateau of really incremental innovations moving the scr…

> Does anybody actively use smartwatch?

All the time. I use it to read texts (a lot of time they don't require a reply, they're just informational). Set timers. Check the weather before I head out. Track my workouts. Listen to music. Log meals. And I don't carry my phone with me when I'm working out, so sometimes I take calls on it.

Re: Open Source Smartwatch

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post #178

Does anybody actively use smartwatch? I remember I bought the first Google pay smartwatch Mobvi Ticwatch Pro. Used it once to pay for dinner and jogging a few times and found it to be not useful as I keep going back to my smartphone which I am not keen to carry while exercising. I'm hoping that Smartglasses won't be a flop but can't help but feel we are no in a plateau of really incremental innovations moving the scr…

> Does anybody actively use smartwatch?

Lots of Apple Watches and a decent number of Garmin watches. Don't see a lot of anything else. I suspect the fact most of them are bulky and have shitty CPU options is a big part of it. Garmin users are willing to accept the bulk for the functionality. Apple Watches aren't that bulky.

I use mine for workouts, taking calls so I don't have to pull out my phone, sending text & receiving text messages, and controlling music. For my light mobile phone use, it's nearly suitable as a replacement for my phone.

Re: Open Source Smartwatch

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After reading what others have said and feedback on PineTime and what a good hackable watch should have, it seems like Pebble should resurrect from the grave as a hackable watch. I mean the pebble time had 128kb ram (this only has 64k ram), an color epaper display, 150mAh battery (over a week battery life), heart rate sensors, etc. Heck its even being supported by the open source community AFTER it was discontinued.…

Pebble's over, sadly. I assume fitbit will want to do something with the assets, why else would they have bought it? (PS: I always wondered what was in it for them actually)

I really hope the PineTime will pick up where it left off! But it's only in dev kit stage now.

Re: Open Source Smartwatch

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post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apache have a fully open source Bluetooth LE stack for most of the Nordic Semi chips, in part because they actually documented their radio hardware unlike most other manufacturers.

I think the linux foundation has one in zephyr as well.

Zephyr uses NimBLE

Re: Open Source Smartwatch

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I'd be the perfect target for the products of a company like Pine. A long-time geek who uses open-source software on nearly all of his devices, a tinkerer who doesn't mind recompiling a kernel or picking a solderer to make things work, and someone who seeks for absolute flexibility from his devices with zero corporate compromises.

Unfortunately, the mediocre hardware used in their devices keeps holding me back.

First came a phone with a 9-year-old A53 Cortex chipset. Then a tablet with the same outdated chipset. Then a laptop that ships with a Rockchip RK3399 with 4GB of RAM, in an era when 4GB barely suffice to run a browser with a few tabs. And now they are releasing a smartwatch with a 64 MHz core and 64 KB of RAM - some specs you would have expected from a very cheap smartwatch released 7-8 years ago.

Why should I use a device whose hardware is almost a decade old at the time of purchase? And how do they even expect anyone to actually use these devices as their primary daily drivers, and not as proofs of concept, nice toys to tinker on every now and then or show off to friends?

I understand that Pine wants to use 100% open hardware, and that comes with heavy compromises, but are these compromises worth it?

If you ask even the geekest user out there whether they prefer a device whose source code is 100% pure and doesn't contain any binary blobs, or a device that doesn't start freezing/lagging after a couple of minutes of normal usage, I bet that anyone would opt for the latter.

Re: Open Source Smartwatch

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post #94

Ok, just to make sure I understand this correctly. - This is basically a commercial smartwach (the Colmi P8) that is based on a well documented SOC, the nordic nRF52832 - The open source version comes with an enclosure that is not glued shut, so that it is easy to access testpoints on the pcb. - Development is done by accessing the nRF51 SWD interface with pogo pins or similar. The programming interface can be a stan…

> It should be possible to just buy one of those smartwatches and crack them open?

Could the way that they're sealed become a problem? Description says waterproof glue will be involved in the final version and seem a bit unclear about whether it'll have any mechanical interlock [0]. Sounds like one might have a hard time putting it back together...

[0] https://pine64.com/product/pinetime-dev-kit/?v=0446c16e2e66

Re: Open Source Smartwatch

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post #67

Lack of NFC :( But probably even if it had it it wouldn't work with Google/Apple Pay, for me payments using my watch would be the best application of "smart" together with notifications.

NFC would've been great for "my watch is also my keycard" type stuff. Hopefully some future version will include it!
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