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The Ultimate MacBook+PC Monitor Showdown

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Re: The Ultimate MacBook+PC Monitor Showdown

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After working on a 27" 5K monitor (first the Dell, now the LG UltraFine), I don't think I can ever go back to non-HiDPI for my desktop, so 1440p is just a non-starter for me.

The only monitor out there that would be an "upgrade" for me currently is the Apple 6K, which is far far into absurd-level purchase category.

Dell has an 8K out there (UP3218K) which, at a scant $4000, looks to only slightly less crazy than the Apple 6K @ $5000 (plus stand!).

It's a bit sad there are so few choices for us HiDPI addicts. Anything else out there I'm missing?

Re: The Ultimate MacBook+PC Monitor Showdown

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post #21

After working on a 27" 5K monitor (first the Dell, now the LG UltraFine), I don't think I can ever go back to non-HiDPI for my desktop, so 1440p is just a non-starter for me. The only monitor out there that would be an "upgrade" for me currently is the Apple 6K, which is far far into absurd-level purchase category. Dell has an 8K out there (UP3218K) which, at a scant $4000, looks to only slightly less crazy than the…

HiDPI does look really nice. Do you use it for gaming? How does your graphics card hold up?

Re: The Ultimate MacBook+PC Monitor Showdown

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post #21

After working on a 27" 5K monitor (first the Dell, now the LG UltraFine), I don't think I can ever go back to non-HiDPI for my desktop, so 1440p is just a non-starter for me. The only monitor out there that would be an "upgrade" for me currently is the Apple 6K, which is far far into absurd-level purchase category. Dell has an 8K out there (UP3218K) which, at a scant $4000, looks to only slightly less crazy than the…

HiDPI does look really nice. Do you use it for gaming? How does your graphics card hold up?

I've got an rx580 and a 4K display. For esports games and old titles such as Dirt 3, I get near 60 frames at max settings.

Re: The Ultimate MacBook+PC Monitor Showdown

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I ended up getting a KVM in the middle - it’s more cables but I have a 144Hz gsync screen and I can easily swap kB+m+screen with a dedicated, hardware button

What KVM are you using that has gsync and 144Hz support? I couldn't find one last time I looked. I'm running an Alienware 3418DW and have video switching through the monitor and a separate USB 3.0 switch.

You can use a passive displayport switcher. I have the Alienware 3420DW and just got this (https://www.newegg.com/p/183-0075-00026?Item=9SIAEKBBMV2800). The monitor is DP 1.2 so 120Hz @ 3440p with gsync and it all passes through the switcher without issue. My setup now has a USB 2.0 switcher for keyboard/mouse/headphones and the DP switcher for graphics both ziptied to a display post. That way switching machines is two button presses. Much better than a KVM IMHO that will likely go absolute next monitor upgrade.

Re: The Ultimate MacBook+PC Monitor Showdown

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I have an old Dell U2713HM, but text looks terrible on it when connected to my MBP. It looks fine with other computers running Windows or Linux, but not with the MBP for whatever reason. I already tried all the configuration changes suggested in various places around the Internet, but it doesn't make any difference. Is it possible it could be because I'm using a DisplayPort to USB-C adapter?

I'm looking at buying a new monitor to get past the problems with my old one. The ViewSonic VP2771, but I can't find it in stock anywhere close to me. Does anyone have a suggestion a similar product? 1440p, 27", USB-C, specifically for use with a MBP.

Re: The Ultimate MacBook+PC Monitor Showdown

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iiyama ProLite XUB2792UHSU-B1 on my M1 mini here. 27” 4K IPS. 5k would be better but it’s good enough and pretty damn cheap. And it’s not 1440p which just isn’t good enough now.

That monitor doesn't have a USB-C input, right? How do you connect both a PC and a MacBook, if you don't mind me asking?

Re: The Ultimate MacBook+PC Monitor Showdown

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post #21

After working on a 27" 5K monitor (first the Dell, now the LG UltraFine), I don't think I can ever go back to non-HiDPI for my desktop, so 1440p is just a non-starter for me. The only monitor out there that would be an "upgrade" for me currently is the Apple 6K, which is far far into absurd-level purchase category. Dell has an 8K out there (UP3218K) which, at a scant $4000, looks to only slightly less crazy than the…

Where do you find a 5k monitor these days? They seem to have mostly vanished, other than the old LG one that Apple still sometimes has in stock (I’ve heard bad things about it). I also love my first-gen 5K iMac display, but can’t use it for my work MacBook. I’d love to find a solid 5K display but until then I’m still on a 1440p ultrawide.

Re: The Ultimate MacBook+PC Monitor Showdown

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post #21

After working on a 27" 5K monitor (first the Dell, now the LG UltraFine), I don't think I can ever go back to non-HiDPI for my desktop, so 1440p is just a non-starter for me. The only monitor out there that would be an "upgrade" for me currently is the Apple 6K, which is far far into absurd-level purchase category. Dell has an 8K out there (UP3218K) which, at a scant $4000, looks to only slightly less crazy than the…

HiDPI does look really nice. Do you use it for gaming? How does your graphics card hold up?

I had a Radeon VII I used on my MacPro5,1 that I would dual boot to Windows, which worked great with the LG Ultrafine 4K display (21.5", 4096x2304).

I upgraded to a LG 5K (same DPI, 27", 5120x2880) with the gc-titan-ridge thunderbolt card, but that was sort of a pain on an unsupported machine so I am moving to a M1 Mac mini + Thunderbolt PC. Hoping to drive it with a 3080, but I think it should be fine.

For any fast paced competitive games, you should be able to drive 60fps with the right hardware, but at the same time you will be held back by the lack of a greater than 60hz refresh rate.

Re: The Ultimate MacBook+PC Monitor Showdown

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I used a 27@1440[1] for years, and for a long time I thought it was the perfect size and resolution for me (and of course I love HiDPI, a 27@2880 would be great too; but I actually prefer to keep a low DPI screen for web/visual work so I can see what a lot of the world sees).

On a lark, last year I bought a 42.5@2160 (4k)[2], with the intention of using it primarily for tv/movies at that size, not knowing whether it would be suitable for work. But at 1x it’s nearly the same DPI as the 27@1440 so I have it a shot.

And at first the only way I could describe it was “comically large” and “probably a mistake”. For work, I only used the bottom half of the screen.

After a move, I changed my setup a bit, with the comically large screen set lower on my desk. This improved my viewing angle so much that I’m able to use the full vertical range of the screen (though it’s still so side that I treat the rightmost 20% or so as mostly a dead zone). Now I don’t know how I’d work with a smaller screen. That much vertical space is a godsend for dev, leaving tons of room for editor & debugger, or browser & dev tools.

It’s probably not for everyone, but for folks with a little disposable income and who might imagine finding the 27@1440 a little cramped, I recommend giving it a try!

[1]: Samsung S27A850D, with a PLS panel, which at the time was an interesting IPS alternative for me. I do realize that a high quality panel somewhat undermines my “see what the world sees” goal, but frankly my eyes and brain hate TN panels.

[2]: LG 43UD79-B, this time IPS, and I honestly can’t tell a difference in the panel quality.

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