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Re: Facebook's advertising integrity chief leaves company

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Post by oblio »

sokoloff wrote: post #77
SCHiM wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean, GDPR is a step in the direction. Many websites, and by extension, people seem to think that you comply by 'gdpr' by putting up a stupid cookie banner. But the real compliance is not storing PII, then you don't even need a cookie bar!

When the law defines 32 but numbers (IP addresses) as PII, it’s not terribly surprising to me that “real compliance” is not eagerly adopted.

GDPR doesn't define IPs as PII, unless you use them as such. If you have a legitimate use for IPs, then you're fine.

Re: Facebook's advertising integrity chief leaves company

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Post by a3n »

ashleshbiradar wrote: post #59
absolutelyrad wrote: post #5

"Chief of Advertising Integrity" does anyone take that title seriously? Forget advertising, Facebook and it's CEO himself has no integrity.

what company has integrity? not trying to normalize bad things, but seriously, what profit-driven thing has integrity?

One place I would look is some, but not all, medical device companies.

Making devices that are helpful and not lethal is motivational and fulfilling for employees, and great PR.

Disclosure: I worked at such a company, and have much respect for the care and capability of almost everyone I knew.

Re: Facebook's advertising integrity chief leaves company

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Post by [deleted] »

yesitstrue2 wrote: post #33
SpicyLemonZest wrote: post #11

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I don’t know that I’d call it doublespeak. There’s a lot to be said for defining a job in terms of what it’s trying to produce rather than what it’s trying to fight.

In principle, good point. In practice, it really depends on where your levels of cynicism are at. Crediting FB with wanting to "produce 'integrity'" or even that they're "trying to fight" the myriad of destructive externalities their money-geyser has spewed forth is.. generous.

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Re: Facebook's advertising integrity chief leaves company

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Post by sollewitt »

EarthIsHome wrote: post #72
rossdavidh wrote: post #62

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I see you're getting some downvotes, but I agree with you. Put another way, though: the problem is not Zuckerberg per se, it's the business model of advertising-supported, general-purpose social networks. If you took everybody out of Facebook and replaced them all with other equally qualified people, they would behave the same, as an organization. The problem is not Who, it's What. You can't "fix" Facebook, because t…

I think you're on the right track, but it's not just because it's an "advertising-supported" business model. It's the fundamental laws that govern our society: profit. Replace Zuckerberg, Bezos, et al. with anyone else, and the new CEOs' decisions will be bound by the same constraints.

Thought experiment: Cory Doctorow becomes CEO of Facebook with Zuckerberg's entire stock allocation and equivalent voting control. Do you stand by your assertion that nothing changes?

Re: Facebook's advertising integrity chief leaves company

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Post by a3n »

etempleton wrote: post #74

I am always a bit surprised that Facebook ended up as reliant on advertising revenue as they are. I feel like they missed opportunities to replace Craigslist as the de facto online classifieds and to offer a payment system like Apple Pay. Perhaps these are only obvious in hindsight. I feel that most of their issues stem from their complete revenue reliance on advertising. It forces them to make decisions about their…

The thing about ads as a user/product is that it doesn't feel like you're giving away resources at every interaction. You're just reading about grandkids and adrenochrome. It's about the lowest friction transaction there is.

Re: Facebook's advertising integrity chief leaves company

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Post by cs702 »

rossdavidh wrote: post #62
cs702 wrote: post #56

As a corporation, Facebook truly seems to be trying to improve its behavior for the benefit of society at large, but the company is finding it very difficult to do The Right Thing, because it would reduce future revenue growth, shrink long-term profitability, and hurt the company's competitive standing against the many other companies that are trying to eat Facebook's lunch every day. In the extreme, Facebook's choic…

I see you're getting some downvotes, but I agree with you. Put another way, though: the problem is not Zuckerberg per se, it's the business model of advertising-supported, general-purpose social networks. If you took everybody out of Facebook and replaced them all with other equally qualified people, they would behave the same, as an organization. The problem is not Who, it's What. You can't "fix" Facebook, because t…

Exactly, except that we don't have to imagine anything. If Facebook were to disappear today, there already exist many companies with similar business models willing to take its place. Some more willing to cross the line than Facebook.

Re: Facebook's advertising integrity chief leaves company

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Post by choward »

dcgudeman wrote: post #28
absolutelyrad wrote: post #5

"Chief of Advertising Integrity" does anyone take that title seriously? Forget advertising, Facebook and it's CEO himself has no integrity.

Honest question, what did Mark Zuckerberg do that makes you think he has “no integrity”?

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Re: Facebook's advertising integrity chief leaves company

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Post by nacs »

the-dude wrote: post #87
0xB31B1B wrote: post #75

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strong disagree that a Facebook staffed with different folks would behave the same. Zuckerberg has a majority of the votes due to his super voting shares. Leadership matters, individual actions matter. Twitter, for all its faults, has a leader who is leading the company down a different path than the pure money chasing and dominance, and i can imagine a differently lead Twitter being making more money and being worse…

Twitter even worse for society? How?

Note parent post says if it were under a different leader for that.
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