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Re: Facebook's advertising integrity chief leaves company

#61

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Honest question, what did Mark Zuckerberg do that makes you think he has “no integrity”?

I'll use the gawker article[0] about what he thinks of his users: [0] https://gawker.com/5636765/facebook-ceo-admits-to-calling-us...

That's something said by a 19 year old in an instant message. It doesn't mean anything, especially 17 years later.

Re: Facebook's advertising integrity chief leaves company

#62
post #56

As a corporation, Facebook truly seems to be trying to improve its behavior for the benefit of society at large, but the company is finding it very difficult to do The Right Thing, because it would reduce future revenue growth, shrink long-term profitability, and hurt the company's competitive standing against the many other companies that are trying to eat Facebook's lunch every day. In the extreme, Facebook's choic…

I see you're getting some downvotes, but I agree with you. Put another way, though: the problem is not Zuckerberg per se, it's the business model of advertising-supported, general-purpose social networks. If you took everybody out of Facebook and replaced them all with other equally qualified people, they would behave the same, as an organization. The problem is not Who, it's What. You can't "fix" Facebook, because the problem is pretty fundamental to what they are.

Re: Facebook's advertising integrity chief leaves company

#63

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Honest question, what did Mark Zuckerberg do that makes you think he has “no integrity”?

Conducting psychological research on users without consent or IRB approval.

You mean A/B testing?

Re: Facebook's advertising integrity chief leaves company

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post #55

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Pulled straight out of the Moral Mazes playbook, chapter on “dexterity with symbols.”

Ambiguity is a tool as well. "Advertising" for example could mean the benign "show me a picture of some product" or it could mean "identify who I am, how I behave, where I work, how much I make, who I know, and maintain and share a dossier on all of it"

"...so as to show a slightly more suitable product picture"

Re: Facebook's advertising integrity chief leaves company

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post #56

As a corporation, Facebook truly seems to be trying to improve its behavior for the benefit of society at large, but the company is finding it very difficult to do The Right Thing, because it would reduce future revenue growth, shrink long-term profitability, and hurt the company's competitive standing against the many other companies that are trying to eat Facebook's lunch every day. In the extreme, Facebook's choic…

based on your own set of possibilities it sounds like they chose b and "f#ck everyone else" contradicts "Facebook truly seems to be trying to improve its behavior for the benefit of society at large".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhSX7IzHkrE

Re: Facebook's advertising integrity chief leaves company

#67
post #56

As a corporation, Facebook truly seems to be trying to improve its behavior for the benefit of society at large, but the company is finding it very difficult to do The Right Thing, because it would reduce future revenue growth, shrink long-term profitability, and hurt the company's competitive standing against the many other companies that are trying to eat Facebook's lunch every day. In the extreme, Facebook's choic…

I see you're getting some downvotes, but I agree with you. Put another way, though: the problem is not Zuckerberg per se, it's the business model of advertising-supported, general-purpose social networks. If you took everybody out of Facebook and replaced them all with other equally qualified people, they would behave the same, as an organization. The problem is not Who, it's What. You can't "fix" Facebook, because t…

Yes. This is surveillance capitalism taken to its extreme. Facebook didn’t invent it, they’re just doing it in a way that makes the consequences more difficult to ignore than Google, which has been able to largely sidestep the blowback by being mission critical to so many people and also having massive goodwill projects that don’t directly point to being profit driven.

It’s up to citizens of the US and EU to reign this in. We can hate the player but we gotta hate the game even more.

Re: Facebook's advertising integrity chief leaves company

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post #67

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I see you're getting some downvotes, but I agree with you. Put another way, though: the problem is not Zuckerberg per se, it's the business model of advertising-supported, general-purpose social networks. If you took everybody out of Facebook and replaced them all with other equally qualified people, they would behave the same, as an organization. The problem is not Who, it's What. You can't "fix" Facebook, because t…

Yes. This is surveillance capitalism taken to its extreme. Facebook didn’t invent it, they’re just doing it in a way that makes the consequences more difficult to ignore than Google, which has been able to largely sidestep the blowback by being mission critical to so many people and also having massive goodwill projects that don’t directly point to being profit driven. It’s up to citizens of the US and EU to reign th…

I mean, GDPR is a step in the direction. Many websites, and by extension, people seem to think that you comply by 'gdpr' by putting up a stupid cookie banner.

But the real compliance is not storing PII, then you don't even need a cookie bar!

Re: Facebook's advertising integrity chief leaves company

#70

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Conducting psychological research on users without consent or IRB approval.

You mean A/B testing?

No, I mean the paper the other user linked where they were turning dials so Zuck could cosplay as The Mule.
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