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Re: Facebook's advertising integrity chief leaves company

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Post by SpicyLemonZest » Sat, Jan 02, 2021, 3:12 PM UTC

nowherebeen wrote: post #9

objclxt wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Facebook uses “Integrity” as a friendly synonym for abuse / spam / illegal activity. For example, it avoids them actively having to say they have a “fake accounts team” (which would in turn indicate they have a fake accounts problem). Instead it’s part of the “Community Integrity team”.

So it's a form of doublespeak?

I don’t know that I’d call it doublespeak. There’s a lot to be said for defining a job in terms of what it’s trying to produce rather than what it’s trying to fight.

Re: Facebook's advertising integrity chief leaves company

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Post by namdnay » Sat, Jan 02, 2021, 3:12 PM UTC

nowherebeen wrote: post #9

objclxt wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Facebook uses “Integrity” as a friendly synonym for abuse / spam / illegal activity. For example, it avoids them actively having to say they have a “fake accounts team” (which would in turn indicate they have a fake accounts problem). Instead it’s part of the “Community Integrity team”.

So it's a form of doublespeak?

I think doublespeak is when the two meanings are opposite, no? This sounds more like your standard corporate euphemism

Re: Facebook's advertising integrity chief leaves company

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Post by rib3ye » Sat, Jan 02, 2021, 3:13 PM UTC

absolutelyrad wrote: post #5

"Chief of Advertising Integrity" does anyone take that title seriously? Forget advertising, Facebook and it's CEO himself has no integrity.

His official title was Dir. of Product Management, which as you probably know, does not project integrity either.

Re: Facebook's advertising integrity chief leaves company

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Post by VonGuard » Sat, Jan 02, 2021, 3:14 PM UTC

absolutelyrad wrote: post #5

"Chief of Advertising Integrity" does anyone take that title seriously? Forget advertising, Facebook and it's CEO himself has no integrity.

I mean, "Advertising Integrity" and "Facebook" shouldn't appear in the same sentence. Amazon is bad enough with fake reviews and retailers that ship terrible products when advertising them as something better.

So it takes a lot to make me think something is worse and meaner to consumers than Amazon. But sure enough, Facebook is it. Their ads are about 60% complete scams, from what I can tell. I get all these ads for $200 Lego sets for $30! And there are hundreds of comments from people who have bought. Guarantee they all got 1 Lego brick in the mail 8 weeks later, and the site that sold it to them is gone.

This would be bad if it was an occasional thing, but most Facebook ads I see are EXACTLY like this. Bait and switch. They send you a thing so you can't claim they didn't send you anything, but Facebook is making bank off of these dishonest scammers and seems not only not to care, but to encourage it. Oh and the thing they send you is from China, so sending it back costs more than you spent.

Re: Facebook's advertising integrity chief leaves company

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Post by nowherebeen » Sat, Jan 02, 2021, 3:16 PM UTC

namdnay wrote: post #12

nowherebeen wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So it's a form of doublespeak?

I think doublespeak is when the two meanings are opposite, no? This sounds more like your standard corporate euphemism

Fair enough

Re: Facebook's advertising integrity chief leaves company

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Post by nowherebeen » Sat, Jan 02, 2021, 3:16 PM UTC

SpicyLemonZest wrote: post #11

nowherebeen wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So it's a form of doublespeak?

I don’t know that I’d call it doublespeak. There’s a lot to be said for defining a job in terms of what it’s trying to produce rather than what it’s trying to fight.

Got it

Re: Facebook's advertising integrity chief leaves company

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Post by icefrakker » Sat, Jan 02, 2021, 3:19 PM UTC

VonGuard wrote: post #14

absolutelyrad wrote: post #5

"Chief of Advertising Integrity" does anyone take that title seriously? Forget advertising, Facebook and it's CEO himself has no integrity.

I mean, "Advertising Integrity" and "Facebook" shouldn't appear in the same sentence. Amazon is bad enough with fake reviews and retailers that ship terrible products when advertising them as something better. So it takes a lot to make me think something is worse and meaner to consumers than Amazon. But sure enough, Facebook is it. Their ads are about 60% complete scams, from what I can tell. I get all these ads for…

So it takes a lot to make me think something is worse and meaner to consumers than Amazon.

That's a comment about yourself and not about Amazon. The idea that you can't find a shittier company than Amazon is completely laughable. What a completely insipid comment.

Re: Facebook's advertising integrity chief leaves company

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Post by high_derivative » Sat, Jan 02, 2021, 3:24 PM UTC

geodel wrote: post #8

rock_hard wrote: post #7

https://twitter.com/robleathern/status/1345133167833997317?s... His own statement

From Twitter: > After almost 4 years, I made the difficult decision to leave Facebook, and 12/30/20 was my last day at FB. I've had a great experience in a difficult, fun, fast-growing and impactful role at the company working with amazing people From internet: > At Facebook, RSUs are subject to a 4-year vesting schedule: 25% vests in the 1st year (5% every 2.4 months), then 25% in each of the 2nd, 3rd and 4th years…

The initial 4 year schedule is largely irrelevant, considering high performers get large refreshers.

Re: Facebook's advertising integrity chief leaves company

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Post by matchbok » Sat, Jan 02, 2021, 3:25 PM UTC

Remember, if you work for FB, you are part of the problem.

Re: Facebook's advertising integrity chief leaves company

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Post by izzytcp » Sat, Jan 02, 2021, 3:33 PM UTC

Who gives a sh*t? Why is this even shared here? HackerNews needs to get back to Engineering please. And, what the hell is Chief of Advertising Integrity ...