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Apple has threatened to remove Amphetamine from the App Store

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Re: Apple has threatened to remove Amphetamine from the App Store

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Post by throw0101a »

yoz-y wrote: post #407
pfortuny wrote: post #399

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Grand Theft Auto comes to mind... Plague Inc... Drink extreme... Trivia Crack Adventura... Drug Mafia... All of those are ios GAMES.

Yes this. The hypocrisy of the gatekeepers is infuriating. Let’s not forget that almost all popular games are mass murder simulators. One of the most popular kids games is a dog fighting game. Now, I’m not advocating to remove those. I like games, but let’s not pretend that somehow calling an app after a molecule is worse.

> The hypocrisy of the gatekeepers is infuriating.

Just because they're hypocrites doesn't make them wrong:

* https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/tu-quoque

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tu_quoque

Re: Apple has threatened to remove Amphetamine from the App Store

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Post by [deleted] »

IfOnlyYouKnew wrote: post #386
sudosysgen wrote: post #313

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What drugs are, according to your reasearch, widely used in Europe? Here in Canada, Amphetamines are widespread, from Vyvanse to Adderall to Evekeo.

Ritalin is the dominant drug in that regard, and while it is very similar in every respect, it is not amphetamine-the-substance nor, I believe, technically in the class of substances also referred to as amphetamines. (someone stated that amphetamines are now available in the EU market. But, if so, it's likely that few people will know, mostly because discussions of ADHD have somewhat faded)

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Re: Apple has threatened to remove Amphetamine from the App Store

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Post by 542458 »

wittyreference wrote: post #471
Shank wrote: post #213

As someone who depends on amphetamines to function daily, it’s disheartening to see their use further stigmatized. For many people like me, amphetamines help them live a normal life. The app isn’t called “meth” or “methamphetamine” and it’s not referring to a street drug. I’m saddened to see so many equating amphetamines to illicit drugs, when that’s simply not the full story. This perception is exactly what stops pe…

Cocaine is also used as a medication. We use topical spray cocaine for anesthetizing the nasal cavity and pharynx before certain procedures. Just saying.

Also occasionally used in optometry (applied directly to the eyeball!) as either an anesthetic or diagnostic tool.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/3885453/

Re: Apple has threatened to remove Amphetamine from the App Store

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Post by oauea »

mmaunder wrote: post #23

You’re angry. I’ve felt this in a trademark lawsuit. You think the world should get behind you and change the corrupt system. My advice is to immediately rebrand as gracefully and effectively as possible and use all that activist energy to effect the transition. They kind of have a point which doesn’t make them right, but they hold all the cards and you will lose this one and regret the wasted bandwidth.

Your advice pretty much equates to "just bend over and take it", which is a horrible thing to tell people.

Re: Apple has threatened to remove Amphetamine from the App Store

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Post by rleigh »

webmobdev wrote: post #298
freehunter wrote: post #279

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I download and use the app despite the name. I’m not okay with it, but I need the features it offers and there isn’t a better alternative with a better name. There used to be (called Caffeine) but it disappeared from the store and I’m not sure why. Just because people use the app doesn’t mean they like the name.

But do you believe Apple should be the ultimate arbitrator of such silly things like the name of an app you create?

I'm going to say yes.

This isn't unique to Apple. Debian and other Linux distributions have also had similar discussions when considering the distribution of packages with obscene, morally repugnant or inappropriate names, as well as the package contents themselves.

Whether it's a commercial entity or a volunteer organisation, there are considerations regarding image and reputation. People can and will push the boundaries of what is acceptable, and somewhere you're going to have to draw a line.

Re: Apple has threatened to remove Amphetamine from the App Store

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Post by wulfmann »

greggturkington wrote: post #136

> Apple [...] featured Amphetamine in a Mac App Store Story Ouch > Customize Your Mac’s Sleep Settings > Amphetamine gives you granular control https://apps.apple.com/us/story/id1470456860

inb4 Apple releases this feature natively...

Re: Apple has threatened to remove Amphetamine from the App Store

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Post by m463 »

mmaunder wrote: post #23

You’re angry. I’ve felt this in a trademark lawsuit. You think the world should get behind you and change the corrupt system. My advice is to immediately rebrand as gracefully and effectively as possible and use all that activist energy to effect the transition. They kind of have a point which doesn’t make them right, but they hold all the cards and you will lose this one and regret the wasted bandwidth.

Maybe you should name it "caffeinate"...

Probably won't sell well in Utah.

The name might also collide with apple's program "caffeinate" too.

Re: Apple has threatened to remove Amphetamine from the App Store

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Post by webmobdev »

throw0101a wrote: post #539
webmobdev wrote: post #510

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Good point. And the App Store is not a retail store - developers PAY THEM to distribute their wares. They are Apple's customers too!

> developers PAY THEM to distribute their wares. They are Apple's customers too! See stocking fees in physical retail stores: * https://financialpost.com/news/retail-marketing/loblaw-follo... * https://www.canadiangrocer.com/top-stories/headlines/loblaw-...

I do know about stocking fees and display fees. And also that it is not the norm, even if some would like it to be. (And phyaical retail outlets can justify it to some extent because space is actually limited in many stores and obviously they would prefer to give the most space to products that sells fast and / or are more profitable.)

Apple has no real justification here, especially when it forcefully denies both the creators and the consumers a choice in the matter on many of its platforms.

Re: Apple has threatened to remove Amphetamine from the App Store

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Post by webmobdev »

supernova87a wrote: post #528
webmobdev wrote: post #510

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Good point. And the App Store is not a retail store - developers PAY THEM to distribute their wares. They are Apple's customers too!

You may not know this, but plenty of physical retail stores charge manufacturers of goods to display their wares / offer shelf space for sale.

Yes, but it is not the norm. And physical retail stores can justify it to some extent because storage / display space is actually limited and obviously they would like to give the most space to products that sells fast and / or are more profitable. (This is why FMCG - fast moving consumer goods - are so heavily advertised. Brand awareness helps their sales, and thus shops are more ready to stock it.)

Apple has no real justification here, especially when it forcefully denies both the creators and the consumers a choice in the matter on many of its platforms.

Re: Apple has threatened to remove Amphetamine from the App Store

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Post by pixelatedindex »

sbarre wrote: post #360
pixelatedindex wrote: post #339

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> the neighborhood doesn't want to look like an amusement park. I do think this is where a lot of the HOA problems come from - if someone wants to put something up on their front yard or lawn, then neighbors can intervene and say you can’t do that there. Since you bought the property and it’s yours, why do others get to have a say in it? I know I don’t give two hoots about what the neighbor does to their own home.

Buying the property came with the HOA strings. If you didn't want those strings, then go buy a property somewhere that doesn't have an HOA. Same with this case, I sympathize with the author and I personally think this is a stupid thing for Apple to do, but the author (hopefully) understood the bargain they were entering into when they chose to enter the walled garden.

> If you didn't want those strings, then go buy a property somewhere that doesn't have an HOA.

The HOA is becoming more and more like your American ISP. When more and more properties demand an HOA, there’s only so many choices for you.

Though I don’t like the answer of “go do it somewhere else” because the real problem is not analyzed and/or solved, I do agree on the Apple front.

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