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My Experience at Apple

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Re: My Experience at Apple

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Posting anonymously for obvious reasons. Unlike others, I actually find this story fairly believable. When I first joined Apple, straight out of college - a good program, top three in the country - I was abused similarly. I joined a team that was on a project behind schedule. Our manager was a brusque, no-nonsense sort of dude. But he clearly had anger problems. On the team were 2 senior engineers, me, and a junior e…

sleek aluminum curves hide so much sadness and abuse.

Re: My Experience at Apple

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Honestly, I want to believe anything we get out of companies and people's experiences, but this really feels... off. Maybe it's the writing, but it _feels_ like an Apple hater who never worked at the company wrote a false exposé just for the sake of it.

My friends who work at Apple have definitely complained about bureaucracy and a not so great working environment.

However article is clearly written by someone who has been psychologically harmed and sees the world through that lens.

I did not get the sense that this person was pretending to have worked at Apple

Re: My Experience at Apple

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Just keep this in mind - Anon stories like this needs to be verified by a reputable journal, newspaper, etc. Medium or Twitter doesn’t do the due diligence. Nation states can fabricate this easily. Not saying that is indeed the case, I’m asking people to stop looking at places like Substack and Medium as a source of truth, especially Anon posters.

WSJ did so much diligence with the Theranos story. Years. They’ve also released a book explaining what went into their analysis and how they approached taking down a big dog like Theranos. Not saying Apple is same as Theronas, mind you; the point is that newspapers such as WSJ do thorough investigations compared to some random anon account on Medium.

I’ve just become increasingly aware of misinformation after this the US elections drama. I take everything with a grain of salt.

Re: My Experience at Apple

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It’s very important to understand the worst that can happen in a situation. If they fire you, ok that will suck and be painful, but important to maintain perspective. They can’t kill you.

These people and these companies and jobs aren’t worth all this. Stand up for yourself and look out for yourself because nobody else is going to.

Re: My Experience at Apple

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Posting anonymously for obvious reasons. Unlike others, I actually find this story fairly believable. When I first joined Apple, straight out of college - a good program, top three in the country - I was abused similarly. I joined a team that was on a project behind schedule. Our manager was a brusque, no-nonsense sort of dude. But he clearly had anger problems. On the team were 2 senior engineers, me, and a junior e…

Sadly, you can fill in the blank with any FAANG company with this story. I’ve heard it a thousand times. Toxic management. Sorry you went through that, sorry that was your first taste of engineering out of college. Glad you stuck with it. It’s a tough spot to be. Do you roll over and do the job your being yelled at to do even though you know any concessions are BS? Or like the senior folks, do you walk? It’s a really…

> Does Apple not have manager feedback mechanisms?

My manager left me out of the first review cycle, but at the end of the second review cycle I did leave a review of the manager. By this time he had left our team though. I don't think it did anything as he continued to rise through the ranks.

Re: My Experience at Apple

#36

Posting anonymously for obvious reasons. Unlike others, I actually find this story fairly believable. When I first joined Apple, straight out of college - a good program, top three in the country - I was abused similarly. I joined a team that was on a project behind schedule. Our manager was a brusque, no-nonsense sort of dude. But he clearly had anger problems. On the team were 2 senior engineers, me, and a junior e…

Your story sounds believable (and sadly common). The posted story sounds incredible, ie it strains credibility.

Re: My Experience at Apple

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post #17

Honestly why do people think that cannot happen at Apple ? That kind of thing can happen in any company. Apple is thousands of employees, it only requires a few bad people to create a situation like that. I'm not sure though, creating a post like that is the best thing. I don't know what exists in the US, but in France, you can sue your employer for free (You don't even need a lawyer), and if you are able to show a f…

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Re: My Experience at Apple

#39

Posting anonymously for obvious reasons. Unlike others, I actually find this story fairly believable. When I first joined Apple, straight out of college - a good program, top three in the country - I was abused similarly. I joined a team that was on a project behind schedule. Our manager was a brusque, no-nonsense sort of dude. But he clearly had anger problems. On the team were 2 senior engineers, me, and a junior e…

Sadly, you can fill in the blank with any FAANG company with this story. I’ve heard it a thousand times. Toxic management. Sorry you went through that, sorry that was your first taste of engineering out of college. Glad you stuck with it. It’s a tough spot to be. Do you roll over and do the job your being yelled at to do even though you know any concessions are BS? Or like the senior folks, do you walk? It’s a really…

I don't think so. I've worked at other FAANG companies which had these sorts of posts written about them, and I've witnessed plenty of situations that I would call "abusive".

But what I read in this article was beyond the pale. I never felt like anybody adjacent to any of my roles might have cause to fear for their physical safety. Reviews were used as political tools and occasional sources of psychological abuse, sure, but people still got marched out quickly if they stopped acting like empathetic human beings towards their peers.

Re: My Experience at Apple

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post #15
post #5

It’s a long, rambling post with some fairly vague and difficult to falsify accusations. I have no connections to Apple (other than as a consumer), but I could not wade through the article enough to determine if I thought there was an actual smoking gun. I suspect the story would be much more powerful if it were 1/5 as long and stuck to the material facts.

Are you expecting them to name real names and give specific enough details where they're then identifiable?

Even if the rest was vague enough (and it only would be if this was a very common set of experiences), there was a screenshot of a 1-on-1 meeting time and room, so the anonymity ship has sailed.
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