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My Experience at Apple

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Re: My Experience at Apple

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If this is true, I am sure it's not reflective of the entire company as otherwise they won't be shipping these great products.

I haven't found much of a correlation between company culture and the quality of products they ship.

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It’s a long, rambling post with some fairly vague and difficult to falsify accusations. I have no connections to Apple (other than as a consumer), but I could not wade through the article enough to determine if I thought there was an actual smoking gun.

I suspect the story would be much more powerful if it were 1/5 as long and stuck to the material facts.

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post #3
post #2

If this is true, I am sure it's not reflective of the entire company as otherwise they won't be shipping these great products.

I haven't found much of a correlation between company culture and the quality of products they ship.

So you can have the experiences as described in the article across all areas of the company with everyone staying in line and still doing their 'best work'?

Re: My Experience at Apple

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post #5

It’s a long, rambling post with some fairly vague and difficult to falsify accusations. I have no connections to Apple (other than as a consumer), but I could not wade through the article enough to determine if I thought there was an actual smoking gun. I suspect the story would be much more powerful if it were 1/5 as long and stuck to the material facts.

Yeah, I wanted to read it more carefully but it seemed to be a long litany of real or perceived psychological abuse. Maybe I too missed a smoking gun.

What I read described an Apple that is completely alien to me. I have never seen or even heard of anything even remotely like this team or the behavior described.

Re: My Experience at Apple

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Posting anonymously for obvious reasons.

Unlike others, I actually find this story fairly believable.

When I first joined Apple, straight out of college - a good program, top three in the country - I was abused similarly. I joined a team that was on a project behind schedule.

Our manager was a brusque, no-nonsense sort of dude. But he clearly had anger problems. On the team were 2 senior engineers, me, and a junior engineer that had just completed his internship and was on a work Visa.

As the project got closer to the deadline, and the scope increased, the manager got agitated. In our team meetings, he would start yelling at us. People down the hallways would stare at us with those "looks." In our 1:1s he told us we might not have a job if our product doesn't ship on time (we were competing with another internal team to beat them to the punch.)

The two senior engineers decided they'd had enough and quit the team. The manager told us to work overtime (no overtime pay, but we had to for fear of our job). He promised us that if we did it that we would get a month of vacation on him, and that he could secure it for us.

The product released. After countless nights of overtime we did it. Our manager left, our guarantee of a month of vacation evaporated, and for the next three months, us two junior engineers were left on 24/7 primary/secondary on-call for a critical service. It was a nightmare. Calls at 3 AM, 6 AM, on weekends.

Our manager got a promotion and is fairly high up at Apple now.

Horrible experience. I left for a new company that pays me nearly double.

Re: My Experience at Apple

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This sounds like an absolutely terrible experience. I hope that a decent writer or journalist takes this story on board and digs a bit deeper. Companies’ internal behaviour should absolutely be of public interest.
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