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UK formally leaves European Union after 48 years

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Re: UK formally leaves European Union after 48 years

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Yay. Now we're free. Oh wait, no, it's just that absolutely everything got harder, more expensive, more nationalistic, more pathetic and sad. It's all incredibly depressing. Here's hoping our kids manage to vote us back in as soon as those Tory f's are out.

Labour were decimated in the last election. I don't suspect they'll be in power with a mandate to rejoin the EU. Btw, things aren't as split down party lines as they may seem. Half the Tory party are Europhiles, and I know many of my Labour friends are anti-EU in a libertarian small government sense.

Well Labour will just waste another decade campaigning to rejoin the EU which has so far has been nothing but a complete failure given the last 3 consecutive election defeats since the referendum vote.

Here's to another decade of Labour being out of government. (Again).

Re: UK formally leaves European Union after 48 years

#33
post #15

Yay. Now we're free. Oh wait, no, it's just that absolutely everything got harder, more expensive, more nationalistic, more pathetic and sad. It's all incredibly depressing. Here's hoping our kids manage to vote us back in as soon as those Tory f's are out.

Labour were decimated in the last election. I don't suspect they'll be in power with a mandate to rejoin the EU. Btw, things aren't as split down party lines as they may seem. Half the Tory party are Europhiles, and I know many of my Labour friends are anti-EU in a libertarian small government sense.

Agree. I personally think Labour blew it, big time. But: the lies that got us out of the EU were pretty unstoppable. Selling an out message on the back of sensationalist, shock messages was an easy PR hit.

We'll see. Personally, I'll always feel and be European. I reckon we'll be back.

Re: UK formally leaves European Union after 48 years

#34

A great day for the UK, able to now chart their own path instead of obediently marching along to the neoliberal EU apparatus. The big question is whether they will do anything worthwhile with their newfound freedom.

Remain high on the inequality index, I assume. The UK got destroyed by Thatcher, and hasn't recovered since.

> “She destroyed too many good things in society, and created too many bad ones, then left a social and moral vacuum in which the selfishly rich and unimaginatively fortunate could too easily destroy still more of what they don't need and can't see that everyone else does need,” said author Emma Darwin.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/margaret-that...

https://www.equalitytrust.org.uk/scale-economic-inequality-u...

Re: UK formally leaves European Union after 48 years

#36
…and Gibraltar will enter the Schengen zone, abolishing all border controls on its border with Spain (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-55497084)

Once that comes into effect, the Spanish/Gibraltarian police will be allowed to enter Gibraltar/Spain when in hot pursuit and to continue observation operations (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schengen_Area#Police_and_judic...)

Re: UK formally leaves European Union after 48 years

#37
Is it really that big of a deal? Was it worth years of discussion and one upmanship from both sides of the debate.

It’s a bit annoying, but the UK could emerge stronger or weaker from the whole situation.

One thing’s for sure, I wish we spent the last 4 years preparing for a 2020 scenario instead.

Re: UK formally leaves European Union after 48 years

#40
post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Labour were decimated in the last election. I don't suspect they'll be in power with a mandate to rejoin the EU. Btw, things aren't as split down party lines as they may seem. Half the Tory party are Europhiles, and I know many of my Labour friends are anti-EU in a libertarian small government sense.

Well Labour will just waste another decade campaigning to rejoin the EU which has so far has been nothing but a complete failure given the last 3 consecutive election defeats since the referendum vote. Here's to another decade of Labour being out of government. (Again).

It may be an easier sell once the consequences of Brexit are less theoretical and more practical for a few years.
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