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Google Maps changes a route after the drama of young people lost on a ghost road

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Re: Google Maps changes a route after the drama of young people lost on a ghost road

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Post by diogenescynic »

mav3rick wrote: post #219
diogenescynic wrote: post #199

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Why does Google not have these links accessible somewhere? It seems like you shouldn’t have to hunt through old forums to find the appropriate contact.... why can a Trillion dollar company not make this more easily discoverable?

It's in the app as well - "Tap Suggest an edit or Report a problem."

Tried that... you get a generic response and then no one ever follows up. Someone took over several of my email accounts and created a fake YouTube channel and Adwords/Adsense/Google ads account. Every time I reach out, they ignore and never get back to me. Pretty frustrating that Google is essentially enabling criminals and ignoring the victims.

Re: Google Maps changes a route after the drama of young people lost on a ghost road

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Post by prepend »

alisonkisk wrote: post #379
prepend wrote: post #360

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No, I think Google built a system to link every email address used by an individual and all their browsing habits. Not specific to their employees but to do that on everyone in the planet. It also makes the simple connection that a user also has a google.com account without doing anything special. Although I suspect they do have something home built as every single company I’ve worked for with a broad customer facing…

You're misunderstanding as you speculating. You've now shifted to "Googler has a special friendly-spying apparatus, enabled by its core technology", to "every company has the same apparatus, and low level line employees are treated the same as EVPs", which is absurd as everyone here knows. And saying "hobo hunt" shows you obviously aren't engaging in serious conversation.

I may likely be misunderstanding.

I was trying to convey that Google just already tracks all linked email accounts so it seems natural that they would be able to trivially identify or prioritize inbound suggestions from employees.

I also wanted to say that even if they did build a custom system to sort employees, it’s not hard. It’s not a super secret tech, but something I’ve personally implemented in an afternoon 20 years ago, so I think it’s safe to assume that it’s easy to do. If they want to.

I added the “hobo hunt” joke as I think infusing humor in arbitrary engagements makes it easier to engage in serious conversation. And all my serious conversations involve humor. Of course, I seriously doubt that any company executives routinely engage in hunting homeless persons and used something extremely absurd and impossible.

Re: Google Maps changes a route after the drama of young people lost on a ghost road

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Post by volkl48 »

throwaway0a5e wrote: post #32
random5634 wrote: post #3

Here's a link with an image of the highway of bones: https://elpais.com/internacional/2020-12-23/perdidos-en-la-t... Here is a video of a drive along it between the cities mentioned in the article: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J46vglp6g98 Insane cold in this area - I'd be curious what type of preparation they had for this, and why not turn back if things were impassable? Google in the USA maps lots of roads that a…

It's not a real highway anymore and there are some bridges out but the road is still used by local traffic (mainly heavy trucks and 4x4s that can more easily ford the rivers). It is more passable in winter because the rivers can be driven across and there is more ice and less swampyness. Several people have done the road and other remote dis-used highways on motorcycle (in summer/autumn when it's more difficult but t…

And for a link of one such trip (which was also posted on ADVRider at the time - "Sibirsky Extreme 2010")

http://sherrijosbecauseicanworldtour.blogspot.com/2010/08/ol... (There's a part 2 + 3)

Re: Google Maps changes a route after the drama of young people lost on a ghost road

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Post by Wookai »

throwaway09223 wrote: post #130
Wookai wrote: post #97

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That's pretty weird, thanks for reporting this! I work at Google in the Maps org, I reported your bug internally and will update this once I have a resolution. In the future, if you encounter a similar situation, consider reporting it ( https://support.google.com/maps/answer/6194894 ). Any user feedback is greatly appreciated!

Hey, thanks! Usually I use the in app reporting, but the thing about maps in particular is often when there's a problem I'm either driving or at my destination and need to go. In this case, I saw the story and then recalled the earlier issue. I figure talking about problems on HN has a very high probability of getting the attention of someone who can fix them ;)

Yeah, that's a pretty common problem. I'm sure they are actively working on making sending feedback easier :). In the meantime, your technique worked! The issue is now fixed!

Re: Google Maps changes a route after the drama of young people lost on a ghost road

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Post by leokennis »

SECProto wrote: post #380
visarga wrote: post #243

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Probably have to submit it to OSM and wait until Google loads their data into GMaps. /s

OSM uses a different, also incorrect, name for the road. At least the name OSM uses was correct at one point (about a decade ago - also when that feature was last edited).

At least on OSM you can change it yourself.

Re: Google Maps changes a route after the drama of young people lost on a ghost road

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Post by dang »

latchkey wrote: post #152
kjs3 wrote: post #90

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You're a fan of a 'feature' that doesn't do what it should and puts people in danger. I get you just took an opportunity to post a 'look at me and my cool adventure' thing, but why don't you just adapt Chaosmonkey or something to choosing your route and enjoy. Don't imply this is a good thing or other people should follow your example.

Calm down. Everything I said was personal experience about something I really enjoy. I never 'implied' anything.

Personal swipes like "Calm down" break the site guidelines and are not cool.

If you'd please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules when posting here, we'd be grateful.

Re: Google Maps changes a route after the drama of young people lost on a ghost road

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Post by dang »

kjs3 wrote: post #174
latchkey wrote: post #152

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Calm down. Everything I said was personal experience about something I really enjoy. I never 'implied' anything.

I never used the word 'implied'. I completely understand that you felt compelled/entitled to piggyback your 'personal experience' on a tragedy. It's a shame you don't understand what a lack of morals that is, but you be you, right?

Personal attacks are not allowed on HN regardless of how bad another comment was or you feel it was. What you posted in this thread was beyond-the-pale guidelines breakage, and if you keep doing it we're going to have to ban you again. I don't want to do that, as you've posted a lot of good comments—but protecting the commons is more important.

Would you please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and post only in the intended spirit? We'd be grateful.

Re: Google Maps changes a route after the drama of young people lost on a ghost road

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Post by Solocomplex »

howlgarnish wrote: post #378
dkdbejwi383 wrote: post #296

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It’s another example of unintentional bias at play. Most “Googlers” living in safe, well-maintained suburban USA assuming the rest of the world is the same.

Anybody living on the Bay Area is painfully well aware that there are seriously sketchy neighborhoods. It's probably more an issue of data: there are no street-by-street crime maps for most of the world, and neither can Google feasibly collect this on their own.

They absolutely could make a "safe zone" map overlay, but the political consequences would be PR suicide.

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Post by lostlogin »

gambiting wrote: post #359
yellow_postit wrote: post #206

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Can also recommend Long Way Up the new one where they use mostly electric bikes.

In my personal opinion it's the weakest of the three - way too much time is spent on technical problems with the bikes and cars and very very little on culture and people of the countries they go through, it picks up in the last 3 episodes but that's 3 out of....11? I also hate the Americanised editing style where even in perfectly mundane situations there's extremely dramatic music playing, rapid cuts between scenes…

I haven’t watched it yet but soon will, thanks for this gambit if and yello_postit.

If they had delayed too long they may have run into covid times and that has ruined an awful lot of things.

Re: Google Maps changes a route after the drama of young people lost on a ghost road

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Post by dado3212 »

jlangenauer wrote: post #317
Thorrez wrote: post #201

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>I’ve done the whole google maps support thing but no response and deaf ears. You've used the suggest a change feature within Maps? I've done that several times and I think it always worked for me. Full disclosure I work at Google, not on Maps, and I always did the suggest a change with my personal account.

It shouldn't be up to people to have to spend time and money to correct Google's errors, and to stop Google inconviencing them. Somehow, it has become completely accepted for Google/FB/et al to make profits while shifting costs and externalities onto society. Why do we allow these tech giants to treat us so disgracefully?

How should these issues be caught without people submitting them to Google?
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