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Israeli startup claims Covid-19 likely originated in a lab, willing to bet on it

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Re: Israeli startup claims Covid-19 likely originated in a lab, willing to bet on it

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The Chinese sure acted like it was a possibility that it came from their own lab - their initial reaction was to downplay and cover up.

The local governments downplay anything and everything to not look bad so I don’t think that is a particularly strong claim.

Re: Israeli startup claims Covid-19 likely originated in a lab, willing to bet on it

#12
For what it is worth, they say there is an 81% probability, based on their analysis, that it was a lab leak. That is not the same thing as "claims COVID-19 originated in a lab" - so I think the title is a little misleading - which is probably why the title actually seems to be "What is the source of COVID-19 (SARS-CoV-2)?"

Re: Israeli startup claims Covid-19 likely originated in a lab, willing to bet on it

#13
I don't see any _new information_ here, it's all stuff we've known for months. To me, this is just a conspiracy theory wrapped up with 'probability charts'.

Unless I'm missing something, is there any non-circumstantial evidence that this is true? All I've seen for the past year(!) is "it's not a coincidence that these two things happened in the same place" - which isn't science.

Re: Israeli startup claims Covid-19 likely originated in a lab, willing to bet on it

#14
> When you see a reliable public betting challenge with real stakes, you can be very confident the claim is true at a probability that is significantly above 50% (assuming 1:1 odds are being offered).

This makes the assumption that the overall stakes are even. What if Alex Jones puts up 100K that boiled frog eyes cure COVID? He could be absurdly wrong, but the additional credibility offered by this may let him sell a million dollars more of boiled frog eyes.

The problem is, there is going to be virtually no research on whether boiled frog eyes are a cure for covid, so it is next to impossible to challenge the claim and made all the more difficult by the potential for human error and the risk involved noted in the challenge.

Re: Israeli startup claims Covid-19 likely originated in a lab, willing to bet on it

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post #6

They're probably receiving >$100k worth of attention by making this claim so... I'd like to see more zeroes in the wager.

The reason I posted it here is because I think they don't get enough attention from people from the industry who understand biology, statistics and reasoning. They are using the fact that no one challenges them as an evidence that their claims are true.

Re: Israeli startup claims Covid-19 likely originated in a lab, willing to bet on it

#19
Even if COVID wasn't man-made, could the eventual outcome have been any better for China?

1. Authoritarianism is glorified and justified with lockdowns, arbitrary rules, and tracking.

2. European societies which 'just aren't authoritarian enough' are plunged into chaos.

3. The economic problems of China caused by tariffs are forgotten.

4. The necessity of mail-in ballots assists the deposal of an Anti-Chinese American president, replaced by one who has corrupt business dealings with China.

Re: Israeli startup claims Covid-19 likely originated in a lab, willing to bet on it

#20

The Chinese sure acted like it was a possibility that it came from their own lab - their initial reaction was to downplay and cover up.

No other government downplayed and covered up?

What is this even supposed to mean or imply here?
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