Baltimore police lied about almost every aspect of its spy plane program
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Re: Baltimore police lied about almost every aspect of its spy plane program
#2ACLU just needs to file a briefing asking "could this data be used to track the movement of judges, or city officials around the city?"
Re: Baltimore police lied about almost every aspect of its spy plane program
#3Unsurprising. I wish that mass surveillance didn't have complicit bipartisan support, but people in power only ever seem interested in expanding it.
Re: Baltimore police lied about almost every aspect of its spy plane program
#4Unsurprising. I wish that mass surveillance didn't have complicit bipartisan support, but people in power only ever seem interested in expanding it.
For this to change, more people who share an aversion to mass surveillance have to get involved in politics.
There are lots of people like this, but they are either apolitical, apathetic, hopeless, don't want to get their hands dirty, think politics is beneath them, that their resistance would be ineffectual, or they are too busy with other things.
That has to change.
Re: Baltimore police lied about almost every aspect of its spy plane program
#5Unsurprising. I wish that mass surveillance didn't have complicit bipartisan support, but people in power only ever seem interested in expanding it.
In general, yes, but not on the whole. This article goes into some detail about recent votes related to the Patriot act. https://inthesetimes.com/article/bernie-sanders-patriot-act-...
Interestingly, there was a three-month extension of the three Patriot Act provisions, included in a House resolution to prevent a government shutdown. It's bad that these things are linked in the same resolution to begin with, and it leads to an unnecessarily hard choice for politicians. Even someone wary of mass surveillance can't just say no to keeping the government open. Often, this is how a lot of this stuff gets passed.
Why are the two disparate things so often tied together in the first place? Similarly today, we see Republicans tying together the repeal of section 230 with the extra stimulus money demanded by the president. It really makes no logical sense why these things are bundled together as one bill, either.
Re: Baltimore police lied about almost every aspect of its spy plane program
#6ACLU just needs to file a briefing asking "could this data be used to track the movement of judges, or city officials around the city?"
Why does that matter? You could block literally anything if all you need to show is that it can be used again a judge or city official.
Re: Baltimore police lied about almost every aspect of its spy plane program
#7Unsurprising. I wish that mass surveillance didn't have complicit bipartisan support, but people in power only ever seem interested in expanding it.
There is also huge support to reduce high crime rates. People will compromise some things to achieve this.
Re: Baltimore police lied about almost every aspect of its spy plane program
#8Unsurprising. I wish that mass surveillance didn't have complicit bipartisan support, but people in power only ever seem interested in expanding it.
There is also huge support to reduce high crime rates. People will compromise some things to achieve this.
This type of surveillance doesn't reduce crime rate, and your vote on the matter is meaningless if the people doing the surveillance are LYING to you about what that surveillance entails.
Re: Baltimore police lied about almost every aspect of its spy plane program
#9Police can't really face any consequences for lying, so why wouldn't they?
On an individual level it doesn't matter even if the lie is in a courtroom for the purpose of turning a murder into justified deadly force! Why wouldn't an organization of police lie even more when they know full well neither the org nor the individual officers will be punished?
Even in this story the truly disturbing part is this:
> A three-judge panel of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit eventually ruled in BPD’s favor in the case.
ACLU is appealing the decision, but where are the obstruction / perjury / contempt charges for all the individuals that lied?
Re: Baltimore police lied about almost every aspect of its spy plane program
#10ACLU just needs to file a briefing asking "could this data be used to track the movement of judges, or city officials around the city?"
Or their children. Or their lovers. Or ...