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Google Maps changes a route after the drama of young people lost on a ghost road

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Re: Google Maps changes a route after the drama of young people lost on a ghost road

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I had similar problem few days ago. No threat for life but serious threat for my car - the route suggested was full of very deep holes.

I've just tried to suggest a change, but as it happens often with Google documentation - the description of what to click matches nothing (there's no menu item labelled with the phrase from documentation - I use Polish version).

Edit: found it, but docs are misleading.

Re: Google Maps changes a route after the drama of young people lost on a ghost road

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Google maps has marked my parents in laws drive way as a road. The drive way is quite long as they are on a farm. Due to a right of way for an owner of a field who owns an enclave within their land they can’t put a gate up. It’s quite unmistakable you are going into someone’s house though. This has led to countless individuals showing up and driving through their land past their home. Lots of people stop and ask for…

It seems like the obvious solution to this would be a large sign at the entrance to the driveway.

People routinely ignore these - and if caught, they claim "but I'm following Maps, it's never wrong"... yeah, you're a fucking semi driver now stuck on a forest path (e.g. this one: https://rp-online.de/nrw/panorama/hagen-40-tonner-lkw-im-wal...).

Re: Google Maps changes a route after the drama of young people lost on a ghost road

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It seems like the obvious solution to this would be for Google to provide a sensible way to accept corrections to their maps. We had to get a change made to Google maps to prevent people getting killed here, and it took national news, and personal contacts within the organisation. Something is rotten in the state of Denmark.

In the US its pretty easy to submit corrections. I've submitted a few corrections on US public lands but now I usually don't bother and just update open street map instead.

"Something is rotten in the state of Denmark" is quote from Hamlet :)

Re: Google Maps changes a route after the drama of young people lost on a ghost road

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Here's a link with an image of the highway of bones: https://elpais.com/internacional/2020-12-23/perdidos-en-la-t... Here is a video of a drive along it between the cities mentioned in the article: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J46vglp6g98 Insane cold in this area - I'd be curious what type of preparation they had for this, and why not turn back if things were impassable? Google in the USA maps lots of roads that a…

I think there is some mistranslation there. (From Russian to Spanish to English.)

From what I can find, Kolyma Highway is still used and not disused since the 70s, as the article says.

Re: Google Maps changes a route after the drama of young people lost on a ghost road

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The problem is - as a non-local you can't really distinguish between Google knowing what it's doing and not until it's too late. For example I've been taken to the following: AUSTRALIA - definitely not a "road" more like an unused hiking / herding path with nothing but lazy kangaroos in sight. CHILE - down an unpaved half-lane road making its way down the side of a cliff, marked "mucho peligroso" ITALY - completely o…

>> ITALY - completely off road over giant potholes and big rocks.

Oh, that's just how roads are in South-Eastern Europe.

Re: Google Maps changes a route after the drama of young people lost on a ghost road

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>I’ve done the whole google maps support thing but no response and deaf ears. You've used the suggest a change feature within Maps? I've done that several times and I think it always worked for me. Full disclosure I work at Google, not on Maps, and I always did the suggest a change with my personal account.

> You've used the suggest a change feature within Maps? I've done that several times and I think it always worked for me. I've had a road that is mis-named near me. I've used the "suggest a change" feature multiple times, but have never gotten a response other than the automated "it'll be reviewed". Road is still mis-named. Other changes i've suggested have gone through in hours.

> "I've had a road that is mis-named near me. I've used the "suggest a change" feature multiple times, but have never gotten a response other than the automated "it'll be reviewed". Road is still mis-named."

I wonder if it would be easier to just change the street signs rather than convince Google to make the correction.

Re: Google Maps changes a route after the drama of young people lost on a ghost road

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Same thing happened to me in the B.C. interior north of Kamloops. I stopped when the “road” became a dry stream bed blocked by a cow that seemed as confused as I was by my presence in that particular place.

Don't see Kamloops here everyday. I just helped my brother move from there last week. I don't know if BC's forest service roads are thoroughly electronically mapped anywhere. Last I knew of, you had to buy a book.

A lot are on google maps now. Some forest roads are pretty high traffic through roads, where as some are made for the purposes of accessing a specific cutting. The later are often marked, but inaccurate as they been moved, or not maintained, or replanted.

Between maps + satellite imagery navigation was possible.

Re: Google Maps changes a route after the drama of young people lost on a ghost road

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>I’ve done the whole google maps support thing but no response and deaf ears. You've used the suggest a change feature within Maps? I've done that several times and I think it always worked for me. Full disclosure I work at Google, not on Maps, and I always did the suggest a change with my personal account.

It shouldn't be up to people to have to spend time and money to correct Google's errors, and to stop Google inconviencing them. Somehow, it has become completely accepted for Google/FB/et al to make profits while shifting costs and externalities onto society. Why do we allow these tech giants to treat us so disgracefully?

Do you even remember what it was like trying to find your way around a foreign city before google maps? They mapped the world and provided it as a service for free.

Re: Google Maps changes a route after the drama of young people lost on a ghost road

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Plenty of people with their Android phones will still go over that section with their snowmobiles, four-wheelers, bike, etc. How does Google tell the difference between someone on an electric bike vs a car going on a dirt road doing 20-30km/h to not have rocks flying everywhere?

I ran into this problem a lot when I was living in downtown SF of all places. One should never drive in front of AT&T/Oracle stadium when an event is ending, as the traffic is insane and part of the road is closed to allow for the mass of pedestrians. But Maps interprets pedestrian traffic as car traffic and shows that section of the road as green and moving faster than the sections with actual cars, and tries to dir…

Reminds me of the fellow who tried forcing it to think traffic was bad by dragging a cart full of cell phones down the road slowly
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