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Re: YouTube removed a Cybersecurity channel without much reason

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post #83

Looking at the titles of some of the videos, it seemed to be more about how to pirate commercial software than security. I think YouTube probably did the right thing. https://codeofhacking.blogspot.com/2018/01/burp-suite-pro-v1...

Proprietary software is inherently unethical, so I support anyone teaching people how to pirate it.

YouTube did the predictable thing, but not the right thing.

Re: YouTube removed a Cybersecurity channel without much reason

#113

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Why should that be required by law?

For the same reason a storage company shouldn't be able to burn all the stuff in your unit if they evict you.

That's currently legal, so you just replaced "YouTube" with "storage company" but didn't actually answer the question.

Re: YouTube removed a Cybersecurity channel without much reason

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For the same reason a storage company shouldn't be able to burn all the stuff in your unit if they evict you.

YT is not a storage company. You do not have a contract with them to store your data with an obligation to return it.

Don't know about where you live but where I do storage units are regulated and could not put a "burn your stuff" clause into the tenant contract even if they wanted to. It's a surprisingly highly regulated business.

Re: YouTube removed a Cybersecurity channel without much reason

#115

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If you archive youtube content, consider stopping by my discord server. https://discord.gg/EJvS4kf I maintain a list of content that various members have archived, such that if anything is removed, people can direct inquiries to people who have archived that content. It's a small way to keep track of what things have been successfully archived, and direct efforts toward at-risk channels. (You can see the current list…

Not very wise of you to depend on Discord and Google Sheets instead of more open alternatives when you're organizing a group whose purpose is to literally preserve the victims of corporate censorship.

There's certainly irony there, but then they're actually getting on with stuff rather than debating tooling. Discord and sheets are also both free - anything else is going to require an investment of money and time.

Re: YouTube removed a Cybersecurity channel without much reason

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post #67

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I had never heard of bitchute. Going in, the first recommended video is: "A Jew asks why do people deny The Holocaust?...and admits the 6 Million figure is fake" from the account "Holocaust Lies Explained". Soo... yeah. Par for the course for "uncensored alternative" sites I guess?

Yes uncensored sites will have distasteful, terrible, and repugnant content. That is a GOOD thing, and a FEATURE not a deterrent. You do not defeat bad ideas, and repugnant ideologies with suppression of speech. Sorry it does not work that way no matter how much the Authoritarian Left and the Authoritarian Right would love it to

The point was not "there are repugnant ideas". The point was "the first thing shown to me, on the front page, are repugnant ideas". Big difference.

Free alternative sites always seem to end up being just, or at least mainly, a place for hosting extremists. call it the voat effect if you will.

And to be clear, I do think that having that kind of content being offered a platform is not, at all, good. But I don't think you need to agree with that to agree with the specific point I was making.

Re: YouTube removed a Cybersecurity channel without much reason

#117
post #83

Looking at the titles of some of the videos, it seemed to be more about how to pirate commercial software than security. I think YouTube probably did the right thing. https://codeofhacking.blogspot.com/2018/01/burp-suite-pro-v1...

Proprietary software is inherently unethical, so I support anyone teaching people how to pirate it. YouTube did the predictable thing, but not the right thing.

At what point in the process of making software does proprietary software become unethical?

If I open a restaurant and sell food, but don’t publish my recipes, that isn’t unethical?

If I make software, and I choose to offer it for money but not offer the source, what is unethical about my behavior?

Re: YouTube removed a Cybersecurity channel without much reason

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If you archive youtube content, consider stopping by my discord server. https://discord.gg/EJvS4kf I maintain a list of content that various members have archived, such that if anything is removed, people can direct inquiries to people who have archived that content. It's a small way to keep track of what things have been successfully archived, and direct efforts toward at-risk channels. (You can see the current list…

Not very wise of you to depend on Discord and Google Sheets instead of more open alternatives when you're organizing a group whose purpose is to literally preserve the victims of corporate censorship.

That's fair. I take automatic backups of the sheet, such that if access to that is eventually lost I can republish via another method.

Discord is used for the simple reason that the current goal is to gain as much traction and participation as possible. The Rocketchat server I host, and the IRC channels I could have used would both acted as barriers of entry to a lot of possible participants.

Perhaps with time I can push for a migration to a solution I host. For the moment I'll stick with these tools, and plan for their failure as best I can.

Re: YouTube removed a Cybersecurity channel without much reason

#119

This sort of censorship & lack of transparency is exactly why I'm currently working on an alternative.

You did look up what else the channel did, right? Because I would hope that a channel where someone tells people what pirated software to download where gets banned on your alternative, too.

Unless you think https://codeofhacking.blogspot.com/2018/01/burp-suite-pro-v1... is somehow fine.

Re: YouTube removed a Cybersecurity channel without much reason

#120
post #6

Could be a mistake but it could also be in line with their already stated policy of removing hacking information. I don't care about the distinction you are about to make nor do I care to post an opinion on the matter. Just information for anyone passing by.

They should be required by law to allow him to download a full archive of all the videos he posted if he doesn't have a local backup, so long as they're not clearly illegal (e.g. child abuse).

I dunno, https://codeofhacking.blogspot.com/2018/01/burp-suite-pro-v1... looks pretty illegal to me? No need to immediately take the crime up to 11, using the youtube platform to help people commit software piracy will do.
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