And it seems, that Christopher Wade, the cofounder of Corellium received a full pardon by Pres. Trump last week for cybercrime charges.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/statement-pr...
Apple loses copyright battle against security startup Corellium
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Re: Apple loses copyright battle against security startup Corellium
#22On the surface, this is an easy case for Apple. Their argument is simple: iOS is not a licensed product like Windows. You can’t run it - virtualized or not - without Apple’s permission. I do think Apple will win the follow up appeal. For even a billion dollar company (let alone a 2 trillion dollar company), their legal team has had some surprisingly bad failings. I recall another “cupcake” case they lost a few years…
> iOS is not a licensed product like Windows
Do developers not need to pay $100 a year to write code for it? (for software that will run longer than a couple weeks on a device). To run IOS no, it develop for it, yes?
Re: Apple loses copyright battle against security startup Corellium
#23This is huge. But it's not over yet. Hope Corellium is ready for Round 2.
What is this supposed to mean? If Apple even tries touching them again, the courts will probably toss out their hearing for fear of double jeopardy. Apple will do the same thing it's always done, which is wince and smile for the camera. Apple might hate emulation of iOS, but they hate controversy even more.
Okay Mr. Cracker Jack lawyer. Apple is sure to appeal it. You have no idea what double Jeopardy is and how it applies.
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#24And it seems, that Christopher Wade, the cofounder of Corellium received a full pardon by Pres. Trump last week for cybercrime charges. https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/statement-pr...
What crimes did he commit before? I couldn't find anything on it
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#25Earlier quoted context omitted.
What is this supposed to mean? If Apple even tries touching them again, the courts will probably toss out their hearing for fear of double jeopardy. Apple will do the same thing it's always done, which is wince and smile for the camera. Apple might hate emulation of iOS, but they hate controversy even more.
Double jeopardy applies to criminal prosecution by the state, not civil matters between non-state entities.
Civil court has a similar thing regarding double jeopardy. It's just not called double jeopardy and doesn't apply to the state. Multiple people CAN sue you. A single person cannot continually attempt to sue you for the same thing every time they lose.
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#26I haven't read the ruling, but I'm surprised. Surely iOS is only licensed to run on Apple hardware, and any other usage would involve making an unlicensed copy?
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#27I haven't read the ruling, but I'm surprised. Surely iOS is only licensed to run on Apple hardware, and any other usage would involve making an unlicensed copy?
Since the ruling turned on fair use, that the use is unlicensed is a given but also not dispositive, since fair use is an exception to the copyright holders exclusive rights.
Re: Apple loses copyright battle against security startup Corellium
#28This is huge. But it's not over yet. Hope Corellium is ready for Round 2.
What is this supposed to mean? If Apple even tries touching them again, the courts will probably toss out their hearing for fear of double jeopardy. Apple will do the same thing it's always done, which is wince and smile for the camera. Apple might hate emulation of iOS, but they hate controversy even more.
> If Apple even tries touching them again, the courts will probably toss out their hearing for fear of double jeopardy
Res judicata, actually, as this is civil not criminal.
Re: Apple loses copyright battle against security startup Corellium
#29On the surface, this is an easy case for Apple. Their argument is simple: iOS is not a licensed product like Windows. You can’t run it - virtualized or not - without Apple’s permission. I do think Apple will win the follow up appeal. For even a billion dollar company (let alone a 2 trillion dollar company), their legal team has had some surprisingly bad failings. I recall another “cupcake” case they lost a few years…
Imagine if software developers were held to this standard. Time to find another team of developers.
Imagine if consumers held the billion/trillion dollar companies to this standard. Time to find another OS.
Apple's outside counsel do not take anything for granted. Post a link to the "cupcake" case and let's have a look.
iOS is a licensed product. The license only allows iOS to be run on a single "Apple-branded" computer. Here is an earlier version:
https://www.apple.com/legal/sla/docs/ios6.pdf
The license is interesting because all not the bits that make up iOS are written by Apple nor exclusively licensed to Apple; iOS is not 100% proprietary. What rights does Apple actually have that it can license. Some parts of iOS come from BSD projects, some come from other open source third party projects, some parts come from Apple, the later some of which have been open-sourced. The mere fact of a license does not mean Apple will successfully be able to enforce all its terms. Avoiding legal challenges to them is one way to keep licensees guessing as to their enforceability. Wanna bet whether this case settles before trial.
Re: Apple loses copyright battle against security startup Corellium
#30And it seems, that Christopher Wade, the cofounder of Corellium received a full pardon by Pres. Trump last week for cybercrime charges. https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/statement-pr...
What crimes did he commit before? I couldn't find anything on it
> his sentence is under seal, as are the offences under which he is convicted.