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We don't need to have full AI to have "death bots".

Do you have a source for that? I’m genuinely interested what kind of AI can act 100% autonomously on the battlefield.

Why limit to the battlefield? NYPD deployed a BD robot in the field 2 months ago: https://nypost.com/2020/10/29/nypd-deploys-robot-dog-after-b...

So far they have only bee used to look rather than touch, but I predict that will change quickly, within the next year or two.

Re: Do You Love Me? [video]

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I was going to ask how long these robots can move without a power cord, but then I found this article from 2015 ( https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-30919098 ) that says it's about an hour. If that was in 2015, I'm guessing they're above 2 hours now. Very interesting. If they could rapid-charge, and could just "take a break" for 15 minutes every 2 hours, they could be used alongside humans doing various manual tasks…

In some of their older videos they have Diesel engines powering them, so they definitely have the capability to make some longer ranges. I was unable to find any articles but if you watch the older videos their engines are extremely loud. Definitely not fully electric.

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It's all fun and games until they install the guns on these things.

I don't really want robot weapons but I would love to see a firing range demonstration with one, just to see what's possible when you get super-human aiming. I don't see a future for humanoid bots in war. Missiles and drones seems to render anything else redundant. Policing in a few more generations seems possible, at least at a technical level.

If you can't tell who the mark is, it's you.

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Jesus y'all are so cynical, commenting on how these are war bots and gonna automate everything away, I just think it's an engineering marvel that these insanely complex robotic maneuvers can be done so fluidly now

Yeah, but can you really blame us? As incredible as this is from a technical perspective, it rings immediate alarm bells about the future of war. These have speed and agility and can reasonably go anywhere a person could go. And YouTube entertainment aside, what really is the use case of athletic robots outside of warfare? It's not much of a leap to attach a gun and connect to a remote human operator. Now you can wage both air wars and ground wars without domestic political consequences.

Re: Do You Love Me? [video]

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Ah, so now when someone suggests "Can't we just drone this guy?" I can at least look forward to a bunch of robots performing the (admittedly great) synchronized dance scene from Michael C. Hall's Gamer before executing me.

I suppose it isn't a bad way to go.

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It's interesting how in manufacturing (and other industries with lots of automation) we are trying to move away from humans as much as possible, while Boston Dynamics is trying to replicate humans as much as possible. Of course there will always be cases where we want to send a robot into an environment designed for humans (ex. firefighting) so there is value in humanoid robots, but it's interesting to me that we are…

I believe any company with the word 'dynamics' in the name wants to sell military equipment. So maybe for crowd control armed humanized robots work better (psychologically) than tank shaped.

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I love how there were people in the upper floor just walking by without even looking. "Oh, the robots are dancing again."

In between the advances in "holographic" displays (not quite as sci-fi as we would want, but they are progressing), commercial space flight, cybernetic prosthetics, CRISPR and this... we are living in the future. It's amazing.

It makes me a little sad more people are not aware of the ridiculously cool technical advancements going on lately. Many of my relatives and friends in my home country haven't even heard about any of these. They're not mentioned in the news or magazines whatsoever. Granted, they probably don't have any use for this information for their daily lives... but I do believe learning about this keeps alive my sense of childlike wonder, and it's sad to know others are missing out.

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So what's the main barrier to using these industrially? Is it reliability? Did this video a zillion takes? Is it manufacturing? Maybe it's hard to scale them up? Is it battery life? Maybe it can power itself for just a few minutes? Is it object manipulation or sensing/world understanding? Maybe it can't apply the right forces to a soft thing or a flexible thing or know what it can step on vs over or what will move or…

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Re: Do You Love Me? [video]

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So what's the main barrier to using these industrially? Is it reliability? Did this video a zillion takes? Is it manufacturing? Maybe it's hard to scale them up? Is it battery life? Maybe it can power itself for just a few minutes? Is it object manipulation or sensing/world understanding? Maybe it can't apply the right forces to a soft thing or a flexible thing or know what it can step on vs over or what will move or…

I'm not sure what you mean by "industrially".

In actual factories, which are highly controlled environments, the things called robots are much simpler and more specialized. So you're "Is it just that anything worth automating is worth specializing, and there are better robots for different specific tasks?" point is more or less it.

But also consider, while these bipedal, quadrupedal and wheeled robots can do all sorts of these in isolation, their ability to accomplish things autonomously in the chaotic, unstructured world outside the factory is little-to-none, accent on none. The Darpa Robitics challenge was essentially considered a failure, all entrant failed. Most could not do the "walk to a door and open it" challenge.

Similarly, Boston Dynamics sells their "big dog" walking robot to the military but it is seldom if ever deployed. It's strong and faster than a horse with basically the use case as a pack horse. But well trained pack horse won't injure if you get in front of it and will walk along with the troops on it's own without a guy with joy stick directing it. And the Big Dog needs constant direction.

Basically, robots don't have even the "animal intelligence" needed for real world activity.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DARPA_Robotics_Challenge

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http://www.theytookourjobs.com

It's a joke now but there is going to be a sizable amount of property damage to these things once this shift occurs.

Only if we can't shift society to accomodate the changing job market and take care of people who have been made obsolete. Ideally by enjoying the fruits of our collective labor and ditching the "everyone must spend more than half their lives working" obsession. Call your senator before it's your head on the guillotine, rich HN readers.
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