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CIA vs. Wikileaks [video]

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Re: CIA vs. Wikileaks [video]

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Post by roywiggins »

conistonwater wrote: post #8

– (1) “Do you live in the UK?” / Alternative: “What is your occupation?” – (2) “How long do you stay?” – (3) “What do you do in the UK?” These are the questions I always get every time I cross any border anywhere except the border (on the way in) of my own country. I don't get this bit.

Heck, I've been quizzed this way by agents of the US while returning to the US, as a citizen, from abroad. What's your job, what did you do on your trip, how long was it. This was before I got on the plane, in a foreign airport.

They aren't interested in the answer, they're interested in whether you have a ready answer and don't sound evasive.

Re: CIA vs. Wikileaks [video]

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Post by baybal2 »

roenxi wrote: post #2

One of several advantages military/policing/etc forces have is detailed records of what worked & what didn't in a confrontation, and the other doesn't even necessarily know that they are fighting. That and purpose-built gear which nearly goes without saying. Something I've noticed with the riots in Europe/America/China/the Middle East/Africa is that we now have first hand video footage of how situations play out. Oft…

> One of several advantages military/policing/etc forces have is detailed records of what worked & what didn't in a confrontation

And this play against them, an enemy can study them too. The saying it that the Sun clan spread its military manuals far, and wide to indoctrinate everybody into using few easily predictable military strategies.

A brilliant military strategy is always like a zero day exploit.

Seeing an errand enemy spy always showing up at known route, and known times to check your garbage, or steal your post? A perfect opportunity to confront him with a few muscular guys, and a soft enough rubber hose.

Re: CIA vs. Wikileaks [video]

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Post by roywiggins »

flotzam wrote: post #32
conistonwater wrote: post #8

– (1) “Do you live in the UK?” / Alternative: “What is your occupation?” – (2) “How long do you stay?” – (3) “What do you do in the UK?” These are the questions I always get every time I cross any border anywhere except the border (on the way in) of my own country. I don't get this bit.

‘Later I realized that the border police uncle did not even listen to my answers, sometimes repeated question1 after answering question3. Turned out to be a delay tactic until green light on the screen; propably “team to follow me through my stay” was ready :/’ (page 11)

They ask these questions routinely and they're not particularly interested in the answer. They're interested in whether you can answer them fluently without stumbling or sounding evasive.

Whether they were used as a delay tactic in this case, I couldn't say. Surely they could just leave you waiting while they "looked something up" or "waited for the computer system"? It's not like you have any choice but to wait.

Re: CIA vs. Wikileaks [video]

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Post by LunaSea »

gonzo41 wrote: post #9
roenxi wrote: post #2

One of several advantages military/policing/etc forces have is detailed records of what worked & what didn't in a confrontation, and the other doesn't even necessarily know that they are fighting. That and purpose-built gear which nearly goes without saying. Something I've noticed with the riots in Europe/America/China/the Middle East/Africa is that we now have first hand video footage of how situations play out. Oft…

The main advantage 'the man' has is organization and unit cohesion. Riots look fun on TV. and then you're in one. And you've only met these protesters casually a few times. Are you ready to take a beat down for them? And are you willing to fight hard against a tight unit like LEO or the military who have a lot more weapons to escalate with.

I think that the biggest advantage the "man" has is the law.

If violence is perpetrated against the police, preparators will go to jail.

That is however not the case when done by anti-riot police.

These asymmetrical rules prevent much from happening.

Re: CIA vs. Wikileaks [video]

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Post by roywiggins »

jonathanstrange wrote: post #77
eli wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the point is being asked routine questions at the border is not necessarily a sign that the CIA is following you

Not necessarily, but if you're a well known hacker who is active since 80s and about to visit Julian Assange in the Ecuadorian Embassy and the questions appear to be asked mainly to stall you, then MI5 could be involved. At least it's a possible interpretation.

Yeah, no doubt MI5 could be involved, but it's not very strong evidence on its own, is it?

Re: CIA vs. Wikileaks [video]

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Post by Fnoord »

jason0597 wrote: post #67
Fnoord wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I always got these questions when I went via Eurotunnel to UK, but never got asked any questions when I left UK via the same transport (and I'm Dutch, not French). I found it very peculiar, given I remained within EU at such times. Now with Brexit, I feel like "whatever".

That doesn't make any sense. I'm from Greece and I've travelled to the UK many times from Greece. I've never been interrogated at the UK border. (bar Brexit)

I have, and not just me. Everyone who was part of the bus I traveled with. So it wasn't a special treatment.

I'd like to go to London at some point again, with my family (ie. not work related). Supposedly train from Amsterdam to London is only 4 hours, so its an attractive travel/stay.

Re: CIA vs. Wikileaks [video]

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Post by dylan604 »

tyingq wrote: post #70
y04nn wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They replaced the entire keypad PCB, you can look at the 2 last pictures for comparison next to a normal keypad PCB. I'm very impressed by the complexity of the module.

Yeah, it's interesting to me that it wasn't more hodge-podge and just hot glued onto a normal keypad PCB.

Why? It's not the 1980s any more. The hot glued version would stick out like a sore thumb in today's electronics. Complex electronic components are very cheap and readily available.

Re: CIA vs. Wikileaks [video]

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Post by Fnoord »

kubanczyk wrote: post #5

The meat starts at 15:52

I'd say one slide later. On the slide you mentioned, some are wild claims which warrant more investigation but on their own are shallow.

I have my smartphone set to 4G only, and it works, as long as my provider supports VoLTE. Not all do, nor do all phones work with it. Phonecalls always used 2G (data connection stops).

I'd love to see the proof of what happened with GPG keys.

Re: CIA vs. Wikileaks [video]

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Post by jonathanstrange »

roywiggins wrote: post #85
jonathanstrange wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not necessarily, but if you're a well known hacker who is active since 80s and about to visit Julian Assange in the Ecuadorian Embassy and the questions appear to be asked mainly to stall you, then MI5 could be involved. At least it's a possible interpretation.

Yeah, no doubt MI5 could be involved, but it's not very strong evidence on its own, is it?

He also doesn't claim that it's strong evidence on its own. That uncertainty is actually part of what the talk is about. The evidence must be taken in combination with other issues, e.g. his claim that the Brits do not even try to hide their surveillance (and therefore have been photographed) and the sophisticated surveillance device he found in his crypto phone.

Re: CIA vs. Wikileaks [video]

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Post by tyingq »

dylan604 wrote: post #87
tyingq wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, it's interesting to me that it wasn't more hodge-podge and just hot glued onto a normal keypad PCB.

Why? It's not the 1980s any more. The hot glued version would stick out like a sore thumb in today's electronics. Complex electronic components are very cheap and readily available.

Because it would work on any Voip phone instead of just one specific make/model. FWIW, this one does have a daughterboard that is hot glued on, it's just the main board that's nicely done. I imagine very few people actually open their phone up
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