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Re: CIA vs. Wikileaks [video]

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Post by tyingq »

shadowgovt wrote: post #39
Foober223 wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> into a pedophile pizza place conspiracy theory The Epstein incident where they used the code word "pizza" for sex turned out to be real. Imaginations running wild turned that into a false conspiracy about a literal pizza shop. Is it fair to criticize wikileaks for unrelated parties imaginations running wild?

Pizza was never a codeword for sex---Epstein was wholly disjoint from the data Wikileaks divulged and was brought down by a long-running FBI investigation.

Maybe they were referring to Prince Andrew's alibi of being at a Pizza Express in Woking, UK? Which has nothing to do with "Pizzagate".

Re: CIA vs. Wikileaks [video]

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Post by StavrosK »

eli wrote: post #31
implements wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To risk assess wether you have strong roots in the UK, and so are unlikely to overstay and work illegally in whatever country you’re visiting.

I think the point is being asked routine questions at the border is not necessarily a sign that the CIA is following you

But it looks like if the CIA is following you you will be asked routine questions at the border.

Re: CIA vs. Wikileaks [video]

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Post by AsyncAwait »

jasonvorhe wrote: post #14
powerapple wrote: post #7

I am afraid the real world journalists don't care too much about Wikileak. I am afraid that's how I feel this way. To me, Wikileak is the real meat journalists, no speculation, no opinion, just information, data for people to process. But we don't want it, we want to read tldr;, one sentence is something I am interested to read about a topic. Journalists know that, they rather publish unchecked facts, as long as it g…

Did you miss that WikiLeaks met with Trump campaign staff that had close relations with russian secret services and then leaked DNC campaign mails so that right wing actors could make that into a pedophile pizza place conspiracy theory? I used to be a big WikiLeaks supporter but these days are long gone. They promised leaks on russian oligarchs that never happened. They promised to "bring down" Bank of America. They…

> I used to be a big WikiLeaks supporter but these days are long gone.

Then you've been duped. The prosecution of Assange is based on his work with Chelsea Manning on US war crimes in Iraq.

But if the lives of poor brown people far away are not as important as cheap partizanship then the CIA can make you believe anything.

Not to mention the fact HRC called for the assassination of Assange and his treatment has been characterized by the UN as torture. I presume you're OK with torture too as long as you think it serves your club?

Re: CIA vs. Wikileaks [video]

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Post by shadowgovt »

tyingq wrote: post #61
shadowgovt wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pizza was never a codeword for sex---Epstein was wholly disjoint from the data Wikileaks divulged and was brought down by a long-running FBI investigation.

Maybe they were referring to Prince Andrew's alibi of being at a Pizza Express in Woking, UK? Which has nothing to do with "Pizzagate".

"false conspiracy about a literal pizza shop" is Pizzagate.

Re: CIA vs. Wikileaks [video]

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Post by y04nn »

tyingq wrote: post #15
jasonvorhe wrote: post #10

Am I alone in finding that these slides read like the ramblings of a looney?

I'm sort of wondering about that "tap board" in the Snom 870 VoiP phone. Pictures here: http://buggedplanet.info/lost+found/20180323/ I can't tell which parts are supposedly not part of the original phone. The 870 doesn't have bluetooth, but some very similar looking models do, which could account for the antenna on the board. Edit: See my follow up below. I'm now convinced this is a pretty complex tap inside the Voi…

They replaced the entire keypad PCB, you can look at the 2 last pictures for comparison next to a normal keypad PCB. I'm very impressed by the complexity of the module.

Re: CIA vs. Wikileaks [video]

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Post by jason0597 »

Fnoord wrote: post #29
conistonwater wrote: post #8

– (1) “Do you live in the UK?” / Alternative: “What is your occupation?” – (2) “How long do you stay?” – (3) “What do you do in the UK?” These are the questions I always get every time I cross any border anywhere except the border (on the way in) of my own country. I don't get this bit.

I always got these questions when I went via Eurotunnel to UK, but never got asked any questions when I left UK via the same transport (and I'm Dutch, not French). I found it very peculiar, given I remained within EU at such times. Now with Brexit, I feel like "whatever".

That doesn't make any sense. I'm from Greece and I've travelled to the UK many times from Greece. I've never been interrogated at the UK border. (bar Brexit)

Re: CIA vs. Wikileaks [video]

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Post by [deleted] »

mhh__ wrote: post #41
pydry wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He's more journalist than most. Reprinting Twitter spats and press releases does not make you a journalist. Publishing newsworthy information in the public interest does.

If you have an explicitly political motivation to all your reporting and what you choose to print does that make you any better?

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Re: CIA vs. Wikileaks [video]

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Post by yurielt »

1cvmask wrote: post #11

“Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't after you.” ― Joseph Heller

After Assange and h Snowden is pretty clear nobody is paranoid the documents are out there the NSA has a system where they monitor people inside and outside the United States the real question is what do you do when they are after everyone

Re: CIA vs. Wikileaks [video]

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Post by tyingq »

y04nn wrote: post #66
tyingq wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm sort of wondering about that "tap board" in the Snom 870 VoiP phone. Pictures here: http://buggedplanet.info/lost+found/20180323/ I can't tell which parts are supposedly not part of the original phone. The 870 doesn't have bluetooth, but some very similar looking models do, which could account for the antenna on the board. Edit: See my follow up below. I'm now convinced this is a pretty complex tap inside the Voi…

They replaced the entire keypad PCB, you can look at the 2 last pictures for comparison next to a normal keypad PCB. I'm very impressed by the complexity of the module.

Yeah, it's interesting to me that it wasn't more hodge-podge and just hot glued onto a normal keypad PCB.
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