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Re: CIA vs. Wikileaks [video]

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Post by eli »

implements wrote: post #18
conistonwater wrote: post #8

– (1) “Do you live in the UK?” / Alternative: “What is your occupation?” – (2) “How long do you stay?” – (3) “What do you do in the UK?” These are the questions I always get every time I cross any border anywhere except the border (on the way in) of my own country. I don't get this bit.

To risk assess wether you have strong roots in the UK, and so are unlikely to overstay and work illegally in whatever country you’re visiting.

I think the point is being asked routine questions at the border is not necessarily a sign that the CIA is following you

Re: CIA vs. Wikileaks [video]

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Post by flotzam »

conistonwater wrote: post #8

– (1) “Do you live in the UK?” / Alternative: “What is your occupation?” – (2) “How long do you stay?” – (3) “What do you do in the UK?” These are the questions I always get every time I cross any border anywhere except the border (on the way in) of my own country. I don't get this bit.

‘Later I realized that the border police uncle did not even listen to my answers, sometimes repeated question1 after answering question3. Turned out to be a delay tactic until green light on the screen; propably “team to follow me through my stay” was ready :/’ (page 11)

Re: CIA vs. Wikileaks [video]

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Post by px43 »

eli wrote: post #17
sunshinerag wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

so you did not care about the content of the DNC campaign mails? And you are asserting an order of events that hasn't be established... is that what ran in your mind?

What was newsworthy in the campaign emails that justified dumping a guy’s whole inbox?

The illegal coordination between the Hillary campaign and the DNC was kind of a big deal, and did trigger a wave of corruption getting flushed out of the DNC. I voted for Hillary in 2016, she was by far the better candidate, but I also seeded the fuck out of those Podesta emails because DNC corruption is absolutely inexcusable.

Re: CIA vs. Wikileaks [video]

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Post by mellosouls »

jstanley wrote: post #26
raverbashing wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, and? Countries have the right to decide who they want to let in or not

Why?

Because unfortunately we don't live in an ideal world where everybody behaves in good faith.

Borders are just one of the tools - but a significant one - established societies can use to ameliorate that.

Re: CIA vs. Wikileaks [video]

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Post by pydry »

mhh__ wrote: post #25
jasonvorhe wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did you miss that WikiLeaks met with Trump campaign staff that had close relations with russian secret services and then leaked DNC campaign mails so that right wing actors could make that into a pedophile pizza place conspiracy theory? I used to be a big WikiLeaks supporter but these days are long gone. They promised leaks on russian oligarchs that never happened. They promised to "bring down" Bank of America. They…

I don't think people who support WikiLeaks are lunatics but it is clear now that Assange is obviously not merely a journalist.

He's more journalist than most. Reprinting Twitter spats and press releases does not make you a journalist. Publishing newsworthy information in the public interest does.

Re: CIA vs. Wikileaks [video]

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Post by rendall »

eli wrote: post #17
sunshinerag wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

so you did not care about the content of the DNC campaign mails? And you are asserting an order of events that hasn't be established... is that what ran in your mind?

What was newsworthy in the campaign emails that justified dumping a guy’s whole inbox?

You missed the part where Donna Brazile gave Presidential Debate questions to Hillary Clinton? Or the collusion between the DNC and NYT/WaPo to kneecap Sanders' campaign? The DNC strategy to promote Trump over the other GOP candidates?

Edit: Downvote if you must, but the question was what was newsworthy about the DNC Wikileaks release. Is it incorrect or that you don't like it?

Re: CIA vs. Wikileaks [video]

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Post by shadowgovt »

Foober223 wrote: post #28
jasonvorhe wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did you miss that WikiLeaks met with Trump campaign staff that had close relations with russian secret services and then leaked DNC campaign mails so that right wing actors could make that into a pedophile pizza place conspiracy theory? I used to be a big WikiLeaks supporter but these days are long gone. They promised leaks on russian oligarchs that never happened. They promised to "bring down" Bank of America. They…

> into a pedophile pizza place conspiracy theory The Epstein incident where they used the code word "pizza" for sex turned out to be real. Imaginations running wild turned that into a false conspiracy about a literal pizza shop. Is it fair to criticize wikileaks for unrelated parties imaginations running wild?

Pizza was never a codeword for sex---Epstein was wholly disjoint from the data Wikileaks divulged and was brought down by a long-running FBI investigation.

Re: CIA vs. Wikileaks [video]

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Post by implements »

eli wrote: post #31
implements wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To risk assess wether you have strong roots in the UK, and so are unlikely to overstay and work illegally in whatever country you’re visiting.

I think the point is being asked routine questions at the border is not necessarily a sign that the CIA is following you

Of-course - I was just answering OP’s query about why they get occupation questions at the border - probably to help spot if they were a potential illegal migrant (no ties to home) or a smuggler’s mule (income doesn’t match journey type).
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