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When I was working in vfx we employed a guy who's sole job was to fly back and forth from LA to Melbourne with pelican cases full of hard drives. It was faster and more secure since we were working on air gapped networks.
Hopefully this was cabin baggage and not something left unattended for minutes on the baggage belt
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> That was a link to an obsolete LTO-2 drive. If you’re using LTO-8, which is the current generation, you’d get a 10-pack of 12TB tapes for around $500. Noticeably cheaper per byte than hard drives. But it looks like the cheapest drive on Newegg for that is $3,299.00: https://www.newegg.com/p/2BM-0046-00001 > In other words, if you have more than about 120 TB of data, then it is cheaper to buy a tape drive. I think a…
You don't even need the absolute latest drives to get reasonable storage volumes. Some careful shopping can net you an LTO-5 (1.5TB native capacity) library unit (one that can be upgraded to newer generations) for under $500, with new tapes $10-15 each. The nice thing about LTO as a format is its relative predictability and ease of acquiring the parts, even the very obsolete ones. It's all SCSI or SAS, most of the in…
That's still... pretty terrible. If we compare you costs for a tape drive against a 14TB easystore @ $190[1], the break-even point is around 72TB. I don't know about you, but that's of data you have to store for it to be worth it. Even at 150TB you're only looking at around ~25% (~$500) in savings compared to hard drive, which I don't think is much when you factor in how much of a hassle tape drives are to work with.
[1] https://slickdeals.net/f/14587381-14tb-wd-easystore-external...
[2] https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=solve+y+%3D+500+%2B+%2...
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Maybe if they’re flying first class? Otherwise that sounds like a nightmare that would require an insanely high paycheck.
>Otherwise that sounds like a nightmare that would require an insanely high paycheck. If the courier in question is 6'2" that might be the case, but I suspect if the person was much smaller and is a heavy sleeper, that it wouldn't be too bad.
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When I was working in vfx we employed a guy who's sole job was to fly back and forth from LA to Melbourne with pelican cases full of hard drives. It was faster and more secure since we were working on air gapped networks.
That feels like a dream job for a temporary amount of time. And very effective too. I assume the VFX studio is in Melbourne?
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Use https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parchive and add as much redundancy as you like. A lot cheaper to over-provision, than to create the uber-archive medium.
That's a good idea regardless of the medium, but if your flash disk becomes completely unreadable in 15 years, PAR doesn't help you much, does it?
Use an M-Disc with 3x PAR redundancy.
Or RAID 1 enterprise magnetic HD with 3x PAR.
Or all of the above :-)
Are you trying to archive TBs or MBs? Likely the next most important consideration is a stable place for storage.
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Hopefully this was cabin baggage and not something left unattended for minutes on the baggage belt
Unattended for 14+ hours you mean. A baggage handler on the departing side could be bribed to steal it and you would have half a day of unfettered access before the courier on the plane even knew it was missing. Of course you don’t check it if it’s that critical.
Network volitility is a huge problem when transferring huge files.
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You don't even need the absolute latest drives to get reasonable storage volumes. Some careful shopping can net you an LTO-5 (1.5TB native capacity) library unit (one that can be upgraded to newer generations) for under $500, with new tapes $10-15 each. The nice thing about LTO as a format is its relative predictability and ease of acquiring the parts, even the very obsolete ones. It's all SCSI or SAS, most of the in…
> You don't even need the absolute latest drives to get reasonable storage volumes. Some careful shopping can net you an LTO-5 (1.5TB native capacity) library unit (one that can be upgraded to newer generations) for under $500, with new tapes $10-15 each. That's still... pretty terrible. If we compare you costs for a tape drive against a 14TB easystore @ $190[1], the break-even point is around 72TB. I don't know abou…
LTO5 onward supports LTFS, which exposes the tape to the OS as if it were any other removable storage, with the one proviso that deleting files doesn't reclaim space unless the entire tape is wiped.
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If nobody is "inheriting" your data (or rather—nobody cares enough to keep your data around), it seems kind of moot to ensure it hangs around. That is, if I put stuff in an S3 bucket and pre-pay for 100 years, if nobody is around to download it in 100 years then why bother? If you wanted to make a sort of digital time capsule and didn't care who discovered it, your next best bet would probably be the Internet Archive…
I absolutely take inheritance into account when having backups lasting for a hundred years, but regardless of how uninteresting my data looks, we don't know if today's boring data would be invaluable for science in the future. We show slippers from 5000 years ago in museums today and they're invaluable. Consider the person who owned it, walking on a national treasure, unaware. Maybe, they didn't even like the slipper…
Though considering these comments and the advent of mRNA/CRISPR, perhaps we could store data for future generations in our own DNA. That'd be fascinating if you could read journals or even audio/video of your ancestors from your biological inheritance from them. What if we could engineer an extra chromosome to do just that, then let them remix and recombine segments of memories so everyone's would be unique.
I'm more interested in the lifetime of the medium. Durable backup media for consumers is still a holy grail as I understand. M-DISC didn't hold up to their 1000 year lifetime promise. Archival-grade DVD's are also not good enough as I understand. Syylex went bankrupt. I want a consumer-grade backup medium that can provide at least a 100 years of lifetime. That said, I was able to recover 90% of the voice recordings m…
A better way would be to use something like that to store it for a decade or two, then copy the data onto whatever the newer version of archive medium is (LTO drives can typically read the last one or two versions as well). Rinse and repeat every decade, and it also lets you test if there has been any bitrot.
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I absolutely take inheritance into account when having backups lasting for a hundred years, but regardless of how uninteresting my data looks, we don't know if today's boring data would be invaluable for science in the future. We show slippers from 5000 years ago in museums today and they're invaluable. Consider the person who owned it, walking on a national treasure, unaware. Maybe, they didn't even like the slipper…
I was thinking that DNA is a pretty robust storage medium. Perhaps we could use it in coming years to store data for long term survival. Though considering these comments and the advent of mRNA/CRISPR, perhaps we could store data for future generations in our own DNA. That'd be fascinating if you could read journals or even audio/video of your ancestors from your biological inheritance from them. What if we could eng…