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Some Differences Between macOS and Common Unix Systems

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Re: Some Differences Between macOS and Common Unix Systems

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> It did not prevent different package managers But did these UNIX package managers actually materialize? I guess my point is: is UNIX at all relevant? It had some really good ideas that were worth copying, but the world has moved on to greater ideas.

> I guess my point is: is UNIX at all relevant? Obviously yes. I don't understand what is there so hard to understand. I mean, just go learn about pretty much any field where you need to target a combination of platforms that don't agree on small arbitrary things, and how much wasted effort that consumes.

I'm still not buying it. We can all agree that UNIX should be relevant but, apart from Mac, when was the last time you used a bona-fide UNIX system?

You've assumed that your perspective is the correct one without justifying it. Sure, standards are important, but UNIX doesn't seem to be a successful (or modern) one.

Re: Some Differences Between macOS and Common Unix Systems

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> UNIX I don't understand why UNIX is such a big deal in 2020. Linux has won, and at least one BSD has binary compatability with Linux. If anything, we should be taking about Linux compliance. Having no strong package manager story, yet being UNIX compliant, seems like an extremely bizarre priority choice.

> I don't understand why UNIX is such a big deal in 2020. If you're interested in learning about why standards are "such a big deal" then you can start by discovering a phenomenon called linux fragmentation".

30% of Linux fragmentation comes from package managers. 30% of Linux fragmentation comes from the system process. 30% of fragmentation comes from choices concerning default installed packages.

UNIX covers exactly zero of those. If UNIX was worthwhile, we wouldn't have Linux fragmentation or, indeed, an article explaining how to run UNIX scripts on a UNIX-compliant OS (sure as shit ain't a standard if it doesn't actually work).

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