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FAA issuing new rules to allow drones to fly over people and at night

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Re: FAA issuing new rules to allow drones to fly over people and at night

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Post by coder543 »

DoofusOfDeath wrote: post #24

I was about to have a knee-jerk reaction to this, but I just realized I may misunderstand what the rules actually allow. My worst-case scenario, perhaps totally unrealistic, is that this allows a drone with a camera to hover over my property, peeping in through the windows. Are there any current / upcoming rules that prevent that?

Many states have laws that specifically prohibit the intentional use of a drone for surveillance of someone else on their personal property.

This announcement isn’t at all related your concerns, and changes (essentially?) nothing there whatsoever.

Re: FAA issuing new rules to allow drones to fly over people and at night

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Post by powersnail »

jmercouris wrote: post #2

This will revolutionize the delivery industry. I imagine trucks will become mobile drone carriers with drones landing and taking off with packages as they travel through the city.

I can understand it for some long-distanced batch delivery, by a giant drone.

However, swarms of little drones flying in the sky of cities or private properties seems incredibly irritating, however efficiently they improve deliveries.

Re: FAA issuing new rules to allow drones to fly over people and at night

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Post by neuronexmachina »

The actual release from the FAA today regarding the two new drone rules for "Remote ID" and "Operations Over People and at Night". The release includes links to executive summaries and full text of the rules: https://www.faa.gov/news/press_releases/news_story.cfm?newsI...

Re: FAA issuing new rules to allow drones to fly over people and at night

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Post by ineedasername »

itisit wrote: post #32
Judgmentality wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, even if all of the logistical and technical issues of drone delivery make it economically viable for Amazon (or whoever) - I think I might boycott Amazon as a company if they started using drones for any deliveries. They are just so obnoxiously loud I would probably welcome people shooting them out of the sky (or if you're awesome you can use an eagle). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8v5hCxBZTh0 https://www.bb…

Plenty of companies hard at work on making anti-drone tech consumer friendly. Rejoice!

Which will quickly be made illegal if it interferes with major commercial activity

Re: FAA issuing new rules to allow drones to fly over people and at night

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Post by coder543 »

frisco wrote: post #18
coder543 wrote: post #6

What about changing the rules around commercial use of drone photography / videography? I don't understand why it's fine to use drones to take photos and videos for personal use, and why it's perfectly fine to use the smartphone in your hand for commercially-usable photos and videos, but combine the two and you suddenly have to get an FAA license? That requirement feels very arbitrary, and it feels like a requirement…

As a pilot, the dynamics of flying for money are very different than flying for fun or personal reasons. The pressure to make the flight in marginal conditions, or push separation to get the shot, or otherwise just generally fly closer to the limits is real and significant. Adding money (and presumably third parties) totally changes the nature of the operation.

Yeah, when you put it that way, it makes more sense.

I still hope they’ll make the rules more permissive at some point, especially as drones are integrating more and more flight automation and collision avoidance technology. Maybe certify certain drones with specific features and restrictions as being suitable for commercial usage without a license? Accidents can still happen, but... accidents can also happen with any kind of commercial activity, even without drones involved at all.

Re: FAA issuing new rules to allow drones to fly over people and at night

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Post by post_break »

throwawaysea wrote: post #35

Whenever I encounter people flying drones - for example at the park - I find it highly obnoxious. The buzzing of their rotors is noise pollution that ruins the peace of a park/natural area, and while I recognize the right to record in public spaces, there’s something especially creepy about a drone flying along a jogging path near you armed with the latest 4K cameras. I think drone enthusiasts don’t understand how th…

Honestly this just sounds like NIMBY. First there are loud drones and quiet drones, noise pollution can be regulated. Next the video from a drone for spying on a woman jogging is nothing compared to someone with a decent DSLR with a telephoto that makes zero noise. And third drone deliveries could have airspace carved out that avoids residential or places that would annoy people.

Now that said some people are obnoxious with it, they fly by people, make noise, I agree that should met with criticism, maybe fines, but I also believe drones will have a big impact in quality of life not just from delivery bots but police, medical, and including hobbyists.

Re: FAA issuing new rules to allow drones to fly over people and at night

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Post by ineedasername »

powersnail wrote: post #42
jmercouris wrote: post #2

This will revolutionize the delivery industry. I imagine trucks will become mobile drone carriers with drones landing and taking off with packages as they travel through the city.

I can understand it for some long-distanced batch delivery, by a giant drone. However, swarms of little drones flying in the sky of cities or private properties seems incredibly irritating, however efficiently they improve deliveries.

I think about the truly massive # of packages delivered all over the place and think we'll need some significant routing protocols in place before we can easily get enough drones airborne without crashing into each other. Sort of a tcp/ip for millions of drones.

Re: FAA issuing new rules to allow drones to fly over people and at night

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Post by leetcrew »

chrisdalke wrote: post #3

The final rule looks to be a big win for everyone who was protesting the original proposed rule: "The final Remote ID rule eliminates the requirement that drones be connected to the internet to transmit location data; the final rule requires drones to broadcasts remote ID messages via radio frequency broadcast." This is great because RF broadcast-based Remote ID is much simpler and cost-effective to integrate into ex…

I haven't followed drone stuff closely in a while. any idea how this affects an older drone like a DJI spark that wasn't designed with these requirements in mind? is it just impossible to fly legally now?

Re: FAA issuing new rules to allow drones to fly over people and at night

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Post by cameronh90 »

powersnail wrote: post #42
jmercouris wrote: post #2

This will revolutionize the delivery industry. I imagine trucks will become mobile drone carriers with drones landing and taking off with packages as they travel through the city.

I can understand it for some long-distanced batch delivery, by a giant drone. However, swarms of little drones flying in the sky of cities or private properties seems incredibly irritating, however efficiently they improve deliveries.

Commercial delivery drones will likely be some form of VTOL fixed wing craft, which can be significantly quieter when cruising.

Additionally they can usually fly higher which further reduces the noise pollution.

Re: FAA issuing new rules to allow drones to fly over people and at night

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Post by burade »

jmercouris wrote: post #2

This will revolutionize the delivery industry. I imagine trucks will become mobile drone carriers with drones landing and taking off with packages as they travel through the city.

Is it really worth it to have your peace disturbed by hundreds of annoying little helicopters just so you can have a panini sandwich delivered in 2 minutes instead of 10?
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