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Re: Ask HN: Best Talks of 2020?

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From the article: "I would rather not have to write this post at all. However I know that people will ask about why my talk isn’t available on the JupyterCon site, so I felt that I should explain exactly what happened. In particular, I was concerned that if only partial information became available, the anti-CoC crowd might jump on this as an example of problems with codes of conduct more generally, or might point at…

How about this quote: "The process has left me shattered" ?

In the context of the article, the author makes it VERY clear that they mean the specific process that they underwent. Is there another take I'm missing?

Re: Ask HN: Best Talks of 2020?

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Jeezus. What is wrong with people? If this woke nonsense is not stopped we are going to chase away all the people who actually create things and be left only with the evil mediocrities that enforce COCs.

From the article: "I would rather not have to write this post at all. However I know that people will ask about why my talk isn’t available on the JupyterCon site, so I felt that I should explain exactly what happened. In particular, I was concerned that if only partial information became available, the anti-CoC crowd might jump on this as an example of problems with codes of conduct more generally, or might point at…

I read this as the author realising that the mob that got him is still bloodthirsty, and must continue to be appeased lest they come for him again.

Re: Ask HN: Best Talks of 2020?

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For me, it was Art of Code by Dylan Beattie, but mostly because that talk has the best ending[0] I have seen. Also, introduced to me a side of programming that I instinctively knew existed but never sought out. [0]: https://youtu.be/6avJHaC3C2U?t=3366

I no longer know what a programming language is. I am confused.

Re: Ask HN: Best Talks of 2020?

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post #161

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How about this quote: "The process has left me shattered" ?

In the context of the article, the author makes it VERY clear that they mean the specific process that they underwent. Is there another take I'm missing?

I think I would like to argue, that these processes have a significant tendency to create more harm than good. Since this is just one of many (e.g. the Drupal Conan Stuff) examples. Especially in combination with our current cancel culture, where an accusation is enough to get some fired from their job.

Re: Ask HN: Best Talks of 2020?

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post #137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Jeezus. What is wrong with people? If this woke nonsense is not stopped we are going to chase away all the people who actually create things and be left only with the evil mediocrities that enforce COCs.

From the article: "I would rather not have to write this post at all. However I know that people will ask about why my talk isn’t available on the JupyterCon site, so I felt that I should explain exactly what happened. In particular, I was concerned that if only partial information became available, the anti-CoC crowd might jump on this as an example of problems with codes of conduct more generally, or might point at…

I did, and if anything I am even more certain COC's have degenerated into a plaything for narcissist, useless fools and we are better off throwing the whole thing out until we can figure out how to keep the psychopathic nannies away. This guy, who could not be more decent, was treated horribly. One shudders to think what would happen to less virtuous or politically correct people. I much rather keep hearing from brilliant, irreverent, even disagreable people, even if I risk a little offense now and then, then live a world pre-sanitized by these humorless, self righteous, sterile nullities.

Re: Ask HN: Best Talks of 2020?

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There are people who like communities with codes of conduct, and there are people who like to be the ones in the community enforcing codes of conduct. I prefer to live in a country with laws, but I don't fancy being a police officer enforcing the law. And, while plenty of good folks do want to enforce the rules with the purest of intentions, there's no question that, as with any role of power, some people will try to…

I don't think we disagree. I'm not pro-bad-enforcement, and I'm sure the phenomenon you point out does exist to some extent, just as we see in law enforcement. The "the evil mediocrities that enforce COCs" comment that I replied to is low-effort and worse than useless. The "all cops are bastards" phrase has a similar level of subtlety and utility. Describing all conference organisers and community moderators as " evi…

What would cause such a meme, as you call it, to replicate in a community as progressive as tech? How do you distinguish what you seem to think is collective irrationality from justified and entirely rational rejection of an idea, that no matter how well intended originally, continues to prove itself symbolically good but practically evil?

Re: Ask HN: Best Talks of 2020?

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I don't think we disagree. I'm not pro-bad-enforcement, and I'm sure the phenomenon you point out does exist to some extent, just as we see in law enforcement. The "the evil mediocrities that enforce COCs" comment that I replied to is low-effort and worse than useless. The "all cops are bastards" phrase has a similar level of subtlety and utility. Describing all conference organisers and community moderators as " evi…

What would cause such a meme, as you call it, to replicate in a community as progressive as tech? How do you distinguish what you seem to think is collective irrationality from justified and entirely rational rejection of an idea, that no matter how well intended originally, continues to prove itself symbolically good but practically evil?

The occasional viral instance of poor enforcement would do the trick.

I don't actually think there's a majority in the "COCs are evil" camp - not even close, but there's a very vocal minority group that has a lot of energy and is always ready to pile into a thread that is in any way tangentially related to COCs and post comments like "Moderators are evil right guys? Remember that time it was badly enforced? That means COCs are bad!" And they get upvoted for that. It's kind of amazing.

Argue about the rules in COCs, or about the way they're enforced. Commenting things like "the evil mediocrities that enforce COCs" is just cringe-level bad.

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Hmm, makes sense. Does same principles also hold while rendering the movie? The 80/20 rule will be harder to maintain because assets can change frequently and unexpectedly during production. But I guess the need for the data to geographically replicated, with fast and easy access, remains (especially during these remote times). During those times, is s3 a still good enough choice or do you want something more robust…

Rendering is different because the assets are very interdependent and the tooling is very POSIX specific. Rendering a scene (especially with ray tracing) can use thousands of assets from the movie even if they aren't directly on screen. Artists draw and save files in tools like Autodesk Maya and renderers read files from disk and work on them while in memory. For some assets and tooling FUSE mounted s3 can work but g…

Interesting. Is Kubernetes ever used as the orchestrator in HPC workloads, or rather are even containers used there? Also what are some good resources to get better at kubernetes? Currently I am mostly playing with managed k8s like digital ocean's and thinking about transitioning to k3s based bare-metal solution. So, I would really like to learn what's the right way of doing this.

Re: Ask HN: Best Talks of 2020?

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post #161

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the context of the article, the author makes it VERY clear that they mean the specific process that they underwent. Is there another take I'm missing?

I think I would like to argue, that these processes have a significant tendency to create more harm than good. Since this is just one of many (e.g. the Drupal Conan Stuff) examples. Especially in combination with our current cancel culture, where an accusation is enough to get some fired from their job.

Ah I see, well in that case I can tell you that the author of that article disagrees with you. It's true that I don't share those same worries about cancel culture with you, my point is that this article is particularly weak evidence for your position.
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