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Re: Mono Developers start their own company

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Post by euroclydon »

bad_user wrote: post #37
euroclydon wrote: post #18

Has something happened since Apple implemented the no interpreters rule? Didn't Apple outlaw MonoTouch?

MonoTouch generated code is not interpreted.

Yes, I read that today, but is that a new development from the time of the whole non-Apple-approved language kerfuffle, or have MonoTouch apps always compiled into c/C++/ObjC?

Re: Mono Developers start their own company

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Post by josephcooney »

jimbobimbo wrote: post #46

THIS is the company Microsoft needs to fund. Not Skype or Nokia.

In an ideal world, yes. But from a strategic point of view monotouch/monodroid (or whatever their new equivalents will be called) don't really help MS, it just helps developers from the MS stack port their skills to other platforms. If developer division didn't have the 'strategy tax' of being part of MS they'd probably be trying to do this themselves (re-targeting their tools to support development on alternate platforms). So in a way MONO helps MS by helping MS customers that MS can't help directly themselves. If there was a corporate equivalent of the relationship status "it's complicated" that's what I'd be using to describe the relationship between MS and the MONO project, but the rub is I don't think MS will be funding Monotouch/monodroid stuff any time soon.

Re: Mono Developers start their own company

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Post by cwbrandsma »

josephcooney wrote: post #62
jimbobimbo wrote: post #46

THIS is the company Microsoft needs to fund. Not Skype or Nokia.

In an ideal world, yes. But from a strategic point of view monotouch/monodroid (or whatever their new equivalents will be called) don't really help MS, it just helps developers from the MS stack port their skills to other platforms. If developer division didn't have the 'strategy tax' of being part of MS they'd probably be trying to do this themselves (re-targeting their tools to support development on alternate plat…

I thought Microsoft did help fund the project when it was part of Novel. In the end, having a healthy .net community is in Microsoft's best interest, even if there is not a direct set of sales involved.

Re: Mono Developers start their own company

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Post by ctoshok »

euroclydon wrote: post #61
bad_user wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

MonoTouch generated code is not interpreted.

Yes, I read that today, but is that a new development from the time of the whole non-Apple-approved language kerfuffle, or have MonoTouch apps always compiled into c/C++/ObjC?

monotouch apps were never compiled to c/C++/ObjC. they go straight to native code.

Re: Mono Developers start their own company

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Post by [deleted] »

zbowling wrote: post #52
bfrog wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In terms of developer salary alone I have no doubt Novell has put millions of dollars in to Mono with no real obvious profitable products.

Besides the contracts with Unity, several game developers on the PS3 and Wii, EA, and others. Besides the MonoTouch and MonoDroid projects. Besides the support to other products like iFolder and Linux desktop apps they released. Besides the various support contracts Novell received for Mono from various companies. Besides the embedded licenses Novell scored to license Mono for things that were incompatible with the G…

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Re: Mono Developers start their own company

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Post by azakai »

mbreese wrote: post #15
sapper2 wrote: post #5

MS should support them with some funding.

It would also go a long way to assuage people that MS wasn't about to pull the rug out from under Mono with a patent suit. If MS was a shareholder in a company that commercializes Mono, it would be tougher (but not impossible) for them to sue.

> It would also go a long way to assuage people that MS wasn't about to pull the rug out from under Mono with a patent suit. If MS was a shareholder in a company that commercializes Mono, it would be tougher (but not impossible) for them to sue.

For exactly this reason, I don't expect to see this happen.

Re: Mono Developers start their own company

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Post by erikpukinskis »

For those who didn't catch it, the "International Mono Support" aside is a reference to Miguel's earlier (first?) company, "International Gnome Support", renamed to Helix Code, then Ximian, and eventually purchased by Novell.

It's awesome to see Miguel running a scrappy startup again. I just read through an old interview with him and Nat from the old IGF days, and Miguel hasn't lost any of the hacker/entrepreneur spirit:

http://linux.omnipotent.net/article.php?article_id=6967

Re: Mono Developers start their own company

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Post by [deleted] »

zbowling wrote: post #52
bfrog wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In terms of developer salary alone I have no doubt Novell has put millions of dollars in to Mono with no real obvious profitable products.

Besides the contracts with Unity, several game developers on the PS3 and Wii, EA, and others. Besides the MonoTouch and MonoDroid projects. Besides the support to other products like iFolder and Linux desktop apps they released. Besides the various support contracts Novell received for Mono from various companies. Besides the embedded licenses Novell scored to license Mono for things that were incompatible with the G…

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