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Reverse Engineering the Source Code of the BioNTech/Pfizer SARS-CoV-2 Vaccine

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Re: Reverse Engineering the Source Code of the BioNTech/Pfizer SARS-CoV-2 Vaccine

#41

> Over many years of experimentation, it was found that if the U in RNA is replaced by a slightly modified molecule, our immune system loses interest. For real. Countdown to see this in vivo. For real.

maybe there's a reason why it can't be exploited easily in nature? It looks too obvious.

Re: Reverse Engineering the Source Code of the BioNTech/Pfizer SARS-CoV-2 Vaccine

#42
I really enjoyed the article, thanks for posting it.

For the ones with the knowlegde I have the following question: how long in days (hours?), does it take for this mRna to degrade and stop functioning and restoring the normal working of the host cells?

Re: Reverse Engineering the Source Code of the BioNTech/Pfizer SARS-CoV-2 Vaccine

#43
post #25

My knowledge of modern genetic engineering is limited to some popsci literature, so I understand only parts of this story. I was surprside by this part though: "Over many years of experimentation, it was found that if the U in RNA is replaced by a slightly modified molecule, our immune system loses interest. For real. [...] The really clever bit is that although this replacement Ψ placates (calms) our immune system,…

I'm not an expert in this issue. But the Wikipedia article has the following statement:

"There are 11 pseudouridines in the Escherichia coli rRNA, 30 in yeast cytoplasmic rRNA and a single modification in mitochondrial 21S rRNA and about 100 pseudouridines in human rRNA indicating that the extent of pseudouridylation increases with the complexity of an organism."

So at first it shows, that Pseudouridine is not something completely new in nature. It exist for a long time already. And it seems a higher amount signals to the immune system, that this RNA is more human like and not coming from a virus. Since this mechanism seems to be established in nature I think one can assume it is safe. If it wouldn't be safe, viruses would probably already exist, which would make use of this "backdoor".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudouridine

Re: Reverse Engineering the Source Code of the BioNTech/Pfizer SARS-CoV-2 Vaccine

#44

> Over many years of experimentation, it was found that if the U in RNA is replaced by a slightly modified molecule, our immune system loses interest. For real. Countdown to see this in vivo. For real.

The author may have added this in after publishing:

> Many people have asked, could viruses also use the Ψ technique to beat our immune systems? In short, this is extremely unlikely. Life simply does not have the machinery to build 1-methyl-3’-pseudouridylyl nucleotides. Viruses rely on the machinery of life to reproduce themselves, and this facility is simply not there. The mRNA vaccines quickly degrade in the human body, and there is no possibility of the Ψ-modified RNA replicating with the Ψ still in there.

Re: Reverse Engineering the Source Code of the BioNTech/Pfizer SARS-CoV-2 Vaccine

#45
post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think there's no risk since cells can't make Ψ, and probaby Ψ is not super durable as a chemical.

> cells can't make Ψ Pseudouridine is the most common RNA modification in cells, actually. They produce it all the time. > and probaby Ψ is not super durable as a chemical. Quite the opposite. Pseudouridine usually increases the stability of the RNA molecule it modifies.

Taken from the article (probably after an update):

Many people have asked, could viruses also use the Ψ technique to beat our immune systems? In short, this is extremely unlikely. Life simply does not have the machinery to build 1-methyl-3’-pseudouridylyl nucleotides. Viruses rely on the machinery of life to reproduce themselves, and this facility is simply not there. The mRNA vaccines quickly degrade in the human body, and there is no possibility of the Ψ-modified RNA replicating with the Ψ still in there. “No, Really, mRNA Vaccines Are Not Going To Affect Your DNA“ is also a good read.

Re: Reverse Engineering the Source Code of the BioNTech/Pfizer SARS-CoV-2 Vaccine

#46
post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> cells can't make Ψ Pseudouridine is the most common RNA modification in cells, actually. They produce it all the time. > and probaby Ψ is not super durable as a chemical. Quite the opposite. Pseudouridine usually increases the stability of the RNA molecule it modifies.

Taken from the article (probably after an update): Many people have asked, could viruses also use the Ψ technique to beat our immune systems? In short, this is extremely unlikely. Life simply does not have the machinery to build 1-methyl-3’-pseudouridylyl nucleotides. Viruses rely on the machinery of life to reproduce themselves, and this facility is simply not there. The mRNA vaccines quickly degrade in the human bo…

I should have cleared that up. Normally Ψ would stand for pseudouridine, but the vaccine has a further modified base, 1-methylpseudouridine.

Re: Reverse Engineering the Source Code of the BioNTech/Pfizer SARS-CoV-2 Vaccine

#48
post #23

Is there a book or textbook that approaches genetics from a source-code hacking point of view? It's quite interesting and I'd like to learn more

In the the footer of the blog post 'BioNTech/Pfizer SARS-CoV-2 Vaccine', the author links to many of his previous blog posts and talks, videos that do just that.

Key Sentence

'In addition, I’ve been maintaining a page on ‘DNA for programmers’ since 2001.'

https://berthub.eu/amazing-dna

Re: Reverse Engineering the Source Code of the BioNTech/Pfizer SARS-CoV-2 Vaccine

#50
post #4

The article is easy to follow and is an enjoyable read!

Thanks! If anyone has questions, I am here for them!

Has anyone come up with an answer for the question that you posed mid-text?

The question about the one base change that did _not_ lead to an additional C or G, the CCA -> CCU modification?

(Note to myself: I think the question is: Why CCA -> CCU and not CCA -> CCG)

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