it is true that lonely people are on the internet, it is like a rule 34 type of thing I don't know how that helps
I am lonely will anyone speak to me
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Re: I am lonely will anyone speak to me
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I'm happy for you that you got over Jordan Peterson. IMO you drew the wrong conclusions about him though. From what I've heard/read of Peterson, he is usually correct in his observation/analyses, BUT only within the framework of very conservative role models. The point here is that he doesn't even add original ideas. I think what makes him so popular among his fans is that he lends scientific credence to embracing re…
Where to start? Besides that it's oppresive, based on bad science, reductive, reactionary, and small-minded. Those feelings of insecurity are there because of a conservative cultural context, that shames difference and enforces conformity to an arbitrary norm. Put bluntly, this system of belief will prevent you from learning real things about the world. If you constantly avoid genuine interactions with people because…
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Re: I am lonely will anyone speak to me
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> Bowling social clubs assume everyone has a lot of free time, does not have small kids or offloaded all kids care on partner. Is this it? Widespread social isolation as the fallout of the two income trap? It could be.
One income plus social club still means you are not seeing kids much and your partner is basically single mom plus extra income.
Maintaining a household really is at least a full time job. If you have a two income household, all that work still has to be done, so you go to work and then come home to a second job. Making the second job the full time job of the other person means each person now has an extra 20 hours a week. You could spend 10 hours a week at a social club and still be spending more time with your kids than you do now.
Meanwhile the money from the second job gets eaten up by commuting and childcare costs etc., and being thrust into a higher tax bracket, but also from having to outbid other two income households for artificially scarce housing in good school districts, which you can't avoid by not doing it yourself and so it's prisoner's dilemma. The two income trap is a real thing.
Re: I am lonely will anyone speak to me
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Many working parents can find ~2 hours, once or twice a week - especially once the kids are old enough not to need constant supervision. It's not like you're a bad parent if you're only reading them a bedtime story 5 days a week instead of 7. Of course, there are still a lot of things competing for that discretionary time - exercise, or a job with a longer commute, or socialising, or working late, or professional dev…
Those social clubs took considerably more time then 2 hours a week. The aspect of it was that only one partner participated, it is not like they would switch. If one partner was member, the other got less me time. And the other aspect that you unappreciate is that they were not time for yourself not time she you get rest and get to do what you want. They over time are another social obligation. You need me time on to…
> The issue is that your partner wants free time too, so the sort of free time you have gotta be split fairly.
Sure. So Mom helps with the homework on Mondays and Fridays, Dad helps with the homework on Tuesdays and Thursdays, and both parents help on Wednesday, Saturday and Sunday.
Re: I am lonely will anyone speak to me
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People don't like complainers. Plain matter of fact is your significant other sees you as the rock in the relationship, which is likely why the relationship works, and by complaining the foundation their attraction was built on was shaken.
That sounds like something the likes of Jordan Peterson would say. One of the best things my therapist did to me this year was get me off of Jordan Peterson. I was spiraling down in self-doubt because I listened to him so much. It’s one hell of a miserable relationship if you can’t rely on your partner to have a receptive ear to listen to the things that bother you or make you sad.
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Re: I am lonely will anyone speak to me
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https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rspb.2017.181... https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/014616720730302...
Awesome. We have something to talk about. What these studies show, is that given a set of pictures with faces removed, college age women will point to the pictures of guys who go to the gym when asked to say which one is more attractive to them. Sure, I can get behind that. As a bisexual male, I also kind of get it. People who are in shape are sexier, duh. Without even digging into the pitiful sample sizes (n=61, n=1…
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Re: I am lonely will anyone speak to me
#227Earlier quoted context omitted.
https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rspb.2017.181... https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/014616720730302...
Awesome. We have something to talk about. What these studies show, is that given a set of pictures with faces removed, college age women will point to the pictures of guys who go to the gym when asked to say which one is more attractive to them. Sure, I can get behind that. As a bisexual male, I also kind of get it. People who are in shape are sexier, duh. Without even digging into the pitiful sample sizes (n=61, n=1…
I find your post delusional. Your conclusion is nowhere near anything I asserted.
I asserted a generalization that women tend to like men who are more fit and I asserted that generalizations apply to the universe. Something along the lines of: Not all women are shorter than men, but in general they are.
Then I used science to establish that generality. That's it. The conclusion of those papers never claimed women are easily understood and I never claimed it either.
The crazy thing is, you claimed to agree with me as "bisexual" man then proceeded to debate a point with an imaginary claim that was never made.
Perhaps you're not delusional and your arguments are tactics and lies used to manipulate a conversation in a direction of your choosing. If that is the case my conclusion is that you're a liar.
Tldr: You are arguing against claims that were never made.
Re: I am lonely will anyone speak to me
#228Re: I am lonely will anyone speak to me
#229Earlier quoted context omitted.
Awesome. We have something to talk about. What these studies show, is that given a set of pictures with faces removed, college age women will point to the pictures of guys who go to the gym when asked to say which one is more attractive to them. Sure, I can get behind that. As a bisexual male, I also kind of get it. People who are in shape are sexier, duh. Without even digging into the pitiful sample sizes (n=61, n=1…
Well said. To add to that, even the preference identified in those studies is influenced by the specific societal context. Generalizing that to “women prefer fit men” is incorrect, because we know sexual preferences are heavily influenced by the societal context. For example: https://www.medievalists.net/2020/06/fatness-thinness-middle...
Wrong. A generalization can be correct in certain contexts. Take the below sentence:
In general, in the United States, women tend to prefer men who are fit.
The scientific papers I provided establish the generalization within that context.
When someone makes a general statement like saying men tend to be taller than women, that someone does so with the awareness that exceptions and alternative contexts exist because such exceptions and contexts are obvious. Obviously some women are really tall and obviously the context isn't some preselected population of women who are over 6 foot.
Another way to look at my point is that broad generalizations must originate from somewhere. They are often indicative of a population where the majority or major component posseses several or a single identical trait. It is absolutely insane to ignore generalities just as it is insane to declare them as absolute truths. That is my point.
That is the unfortunate reality of the world. Generalities, like stereotypes, illustrate an aspect of a truth. Social justice is important but one cannot change the world by eliminating a truth to mold the universe into a delusion that fits the perception of a social justice ideal.
Re: I am lonely will anyone speak to me
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Does this number actually help? It’s shared kind of automatically but I find it trivializes suicide
It might help folks that can be helped by talking to someone. For someone like me, it would only make me feel bad, like I'm burdening someone else with the knowledge that I'm going to end my life; I know they won't be able to "talk me out of it". I have no friends, no family, nor any coworkers since July. No one will notice me being dead then any more than they notice me being absent now. When the money runs out, I h…
I admire your composture in talking about your loneliness and your apparent reluctance in burdening other people with your problems. While agreeing with some of the other posters on the generic upside of being alive and serving others, I would also like to tell you that God himself, in the person of Christ, has chosen to share in our suffering, and lead us to hope, as a community of believers. PM me if you (or anyone else, for that matter) want.