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Re: ATT services down due to bombing in Nashville

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Post by RealityVoid »

macinjosh wrote: post #273
ideophobia wrote: post #148

Considering the FBI recently foiled a plot by a group who was planning to "take out" parts of the energy grid, it seems likely from my experience that this is another set of people executing a similar plan targeting telecoms. I imagine there is a high probability of more incidents like this happening between now and the inauguration, meant to target various infrastructure and "big government" components throughout th…

> This attack screams anti-government militia with it's technique What makes you think this? Vehicle bombs have been used by Islamic bombers, IRA bombers. Doesn’t seem that unique to me.

They usually do not go out of their way to avoid civilian victims. On the contrary.

Re: ATT services down due to bombing in Nashville

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Post by vijaybritto »

pageandrew wrote: post #333
vijaybritto wrote: post #320

This is quite confusing to read cause the article doesn't mention it as terrorism. They seem to play it down as some sort of violence. I'm not sure if this would have been the case if there were any Muslim involved.

Terrorism is violence with political or ideological motives. The motive in this situation is currently completely unknown. It very well may be terrorism, and that has nothing to do with the race or religion of the perpetrators. It has to do with their motive.

Yeah thats the theory but is it followed in practice?

Re: ATT services down due to bombing in Nashville

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Post by takeda »

joshuakelly wrote: post #22

This article doesn't make this so explicit, but ATT infrastructure appears to be the intentional target of the bombing. You can see the building in the helicopter shot at the top of the NYTimes article on the story: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/25/us/nashville-explosion.ht... Obviously a telecommunications/switch hub, with it being a large windowless building in a downtown core. The other thing that's particularly…

Wondering if it was anti-5G related.

Re: ATT services down due to bombing in Nashville

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Post by pjc50 »

gizmo686 wrote: post #266
joshuakelly wrote: post #22

This article doesn't make this so explicit, but ATT infrastructure appears to be the intentional target of the bombing. You can see the building in the helicopter shot at the top of the NYTimes article on the story: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/25/us/nashville-explosion.ht... Obviously a telecommunications/switch hub, with it being a large windowless building in a downtown core. The other thing that's particularly…

Sending a warning before a bombing isn't that uncommon. It's less common (although not entirely unheard of) if the bombing is a terrorist attack. But if, as you suggest, that target is infrastructure, the only real reason to not give a warning is tactical. WIthout knowing who is responsible for it, it is possible they wanted to inflict whatever damage they had in mind, without causing any loss of life or human injuri…

Warnings tend to come with political bombings. But in this case we have a bombing with no manifesto - yet. A lot of effort for unclear purpose.

Re: ATT services down due to bombing in Nashville

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Post by konjin »

kitteh wrote: post #301
unethical_ban wrote: post #195

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is pretty nuts that a single physical location can bring down a state's worth of 911, and cellular. It is either institutional incompetence, or malice, or laziness.

Lack of redundancy due to cost probably has something to do with it. Same issue with internet peering in quite a few cities (no viable 2nd location, costs a lot of money to double up the gear, additona optical transport).

Not to mention that in far two many places the second location is on the other side of the river from the first.

I was in finance when I looked up the physical address of our back up data center which was in another city ... 5km up stream from our main data center, both were within the 30 year flood plain of the river.

Re: ATT services down due to bombing in Nashville

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Post by DSingularity »

klipt wrote: post #126
fwip wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perhaps war is a form of terrorism.

One difference is war has rules, terrorism doesn't. Deliberately targeting civilians in war is usually considered a war crime, while deliberately targeting civilians in a terrorist attack is considered ... a standard terrorist attack.

War has rules? Until it doesn’t. Look at the Israeli invasion of Lebanon. It was concluded by an agreement for a total withdrawal of PLO forces from Lebanon with promises by the Israelis not to attack Palestinians. This was negotiated through US mediators. So what did the Israelis do? They lit the sky for their proxy forces to roam the newly defenseless refugee camps and carry out their killings [1].

In the end, I wonder which has destroyed more human lives?

[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabra_and_Shatila_massacre

Re: ATT services down due to bombing in Nashville

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Post by [deleted] »

sillysaurusx wrote: post #113
outoftheabyss wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ironically it was on an occasion when a bomb was phoned in that led to the single biggest atrocity during the troubles. 29 people killed by a cat bomb in Omagh. We may not be living in peace today has it not happened

What’s a cat bomb?

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Re: ATT services down due to bombing in Nashville

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Post by takeda »

orblivion wrote: post #53
drtillberg wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Local TV News managed to interview a neighbor from directly across the street where the explosion occurred[1]. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iag6cTWpgq8

Interesting things to consider. 1) I heard something about "fake reports" about gunshots. But maybe the perp shot off some guns just to get the cops to show up? 2) This woman stuck around for 15 minutes or a half hour while this thing was saying "you need to evacuate, this has a bomb"??? 3) This woman recalls a male voice but the news played a female voice. This goes to show how bad our memories are!

> 3) This woman recalls a male voice but the news played a female voice. This goes to show how bad our memories are!

Here is the recording: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nygTJeu9fU

I actually also watched the video before reading that it was a female voice and also thought it was male.

Re: ATT services down due to bombing in Nashville

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Post by rendall »

joshuakelly wrote: post #22

This article doesn't make this so explicit, but ATT infrastructure appears to be the intentional target of the bombing. You can see the building in the helicopter shot at the top of the NYTimes article on the story: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/25/us/nashville-explosion.ht... Obviously a telecommunications/switch hub, with it being a large windowless building in a downtown core. The other thing that's particularly…

I suspect the target of the bombing was the Melting Pot, a fondue restaurant. Have you ever had fondue? Burns the roof of your mouth, every time. It should be illegal

Re: ATT services down due to bombing in Nashville

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Post by giantrobot »

function_seven wrote: post #281
giantrobot wrote: post #257

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, a lot of AT&T buildings were built as bunkers, well blockhouses, during the Cold War. The typical "reinforced" criteria was being able to handle 2-3psi over pressure and storm force winds (70mph). This particular building is an old AT&T-cum-BellSouth-cum-AT&T tandem office. It's where end offices (that connected to actual customer phones) would be connected together and connected to inter exchange carriers. AFAIK…

"Central Office" is the wrong term for it, but I've worked in a couple switching offices that were built to look just like another house in the tract. They were RSUs (Remote Switch Unit), that trunked everything back to a parent CO. In both cases it was a housing tract that was allergic to ugly buildings or something. The vast majority of RSUs looked like smaller versions of the CO. Gray cinder blocks and asphalt.

That's interesting, I've only ever seen cross boxes (ugly green boxes) with RCUs in them. Then again I may have seen tons of disguised RSUs and never have known it.
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