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Re: Ask HN: Why does Pinterest dominate Google text search results?

#11

There’s a great Chrome extension that will remove those from search results.

  google.*##a[href*=".pinterest."]:upward:(1)

  google.*##.g:has(a[href*=".pinterest."])
Add to uBlock Origin. in the "My Filters" tab. This will completely block pinterest. No need to use more extensions that can access your cookies and history.

Re: Ask HN: Why does Pinterest dominate Google text search results?

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One big reason why Pinterest ranks so highly, and why you are seeing different tld's in the results, is because they have a variety of tld's that they use and those tld's all have separate crawl budgets from each other. So Google crawls Pinterest about an order of magnitude more than most other sites. You can read more about this here: https://medium.com/pinterest-engineering/how-switching-our-d...

Source: I run a think tank focused on Google’s web crawling advantage and have been studying stuff like this for a couple years now.

Re: Ask HN: Why does Pinterest dominate Google text search results?

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There's no intentional or manual effort at Google to promote pinterest. Pinterest shows up because they understand how the Google algorithm works and built their website to display all the signals that Google looks for in relevant image content. They understand user intent and generate URLs that present content in a way that google expects to see. Examples of how they do this from their engineering team: https://medi…

Google should be asking from a product perspective if they are providing the search results the user is most likely seeking.

I seriously doubt that most pinterest results are what users are seeking. As such, Google probably should consider changes to their algorithm to compensate (cat and mouse) for pinterest's gaming. That is assuming how pinterest does it is not against any google rules... because if it were against any rules, they should be slapped down hard.

When my searches result in mostly pinterest results, I give up more quickly. That means I spend less time using google, and that in theory means less money for google. Unfortunately, I do see other more regular user types operate their computers, and they are less or un-descriminating about the domain name listed under the image. So they'll head directly into the pinterest waste pond anyway.

Re: Ask HN: Why does Pinterest dominate Google text search results?

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Pinterest spends a large percentage of their budget on gaming the search page. Though I’m sure you’ve noticed in recent years that Google has begun to replace many search results with answers directly from them instead of redirecting you to places like Pinterest. For the better I say. Companies like Pinterest are parasitic and degrade the overall ecosystem of search.

Yeah - I've just been reading some of the Pinterest engineering blogs linked above about their sophisticated SEO experimentation framework and ugh, I think it's time to load up my browser with extensions or move away from google completely.

Image search has been borked due to Pinterest results for a few years now, but now my text queries have also started being dominated more and more often by their search results. I'm bummed that Google doesn't count the different Pinterest country domains as duplicates and remove them. instead there is like pages upon pages of the same Pinterest result.

Re: Ask HN: Why does Pinterest dominate Google text search results?

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One big reason why Pinterest ranks so highly, and why you are seeing different tld's in the results, is because they have a variety of tld's that they use and those tld's all have separate crawl budgets from each other. So Google crawls Pinterest about an order of magnitude more than most other sites. You can read more about this here: https://medium.com/pinterest-engineering/how-switching-our-d... Source: I run a th…

Does your think tank come up with any ideas on how to keep companies like Pinterest from peeing in the pool so to speak? They made it impossible to find DIY craft stuff that I used to search for, and I can’t imagine it’s the only site doing it.

Re: Ask HN: Why does Pinterest dominate Google text search results?

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post #13

There's no intentional or manual effort at Google to promote pinterest. Pinterest shows up because they understand how the Google algorithm works and built their website to display all the signals that Google looks for in relevant image content. They understand user intent and generate URLs that present content in a way that google expects to see. Examples of how they do this from their engineering team: https://medi…

Google should be asking from a product perspective if they are providing the search results the user is most likely seeking. I seriously doubt that most pinterest results are what users are seeking. As such, Google probably should consider changes to their algorithm to compensate (cat and mouse) for pinterest's gaming. That is assuming how pinterest does it is not against any google rules... because if it were agains…

Just do -pinterest in your search to filter

Re: Ask HN: Why does Pinterest dominate Google text search results?

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post #9

google.*##.g:has(a[href*=".pinterest."]) google.*##a[href*=".pinterest."]:nth-ancestor(1) Add to uBlock Origin. in the "My Filters" tab. This will completely block pinterest

Unfortunately this did not work for me. I added these two, and then I did a search on images.google.com for "custom carved door frame".

5 of 7 images on the first row of results was some pinterest site.

Re: Ask HN: Why does Pinterest dominate Google text search results?

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post #9

google.*##.g:has(a[href*=".pinterest."]) google.*##a[href*=".pinterest."]:nth-ancestor(1) Add to uBlock Origin. in the "My Filters" tab. This will completely block pinterest

This userscript is very useful for hiding pinterest search results: https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/1682-google-hit-hider-by-d...

I also use it for w3schools and a few other common search result spam sites.

Re: Ask HN: Why does Pinterest dominate Google text search results?

#20

There's no intentional or manual effort at Google to promote pinterest. Pinterest shows up because they understand how the Google algorithm works and built their website to display all the signals that Google looks for in relevant image content. They understand user intent and generate URLs that present content in a way that google expects to see. Examples of how they do this from their engineering team: https://medi…

Still odd that Google tolerates this. Isn't this exactly the kind of black-hat SEO that they are usually downranking or banning sites for?

Pinterest landing pages are intentionally unusable for anyone without an account. It's hard to make a good-faith argument that those pages are the "most relevant result" for someone making a simple image search.

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